Hi,

few little things here and there happened today.

First, there is this babe at work who I have been watching from afar and so today as the school course is winding up, i took advantage and number closed after like two million years waiting for the right moment. I just did it and asked her to check it and she even corrected it when I had put in the wrong number. Great.

Then hit the mall. The most curious thing has happened in this mall. I have run my favorite "airport opener" where I ask if a girl works or has worked in the airport.
Today i saw a babe I had used the opener on and curiosly enough she said to my amazement that she did work in the airport. I didn't know quite what to say at the time. So, i ejected.

Today she was there so I walk into the shop and say, hello, your my friend from the airport. Jeez she was chatty as hell. I was doing all fluff. I just wanted to number close and get the hell out of there. I went to buy something to bring us a bif nearer to each other and ended up spending 5 bucks on shit for nothing. Cos this fat chick got in the queue behind me just as I was about to go in for the close. SHit!!!! I ejected and she was saying hey see you next time "mi nino" which in English is like, my little boy. Jeez, I guess i definetely got into LJBF zone big time. Fuck!!!

Anyway, mosey onto the book section of the supermarket and there I am like trying to look intellectual and see this babe at the other side of this pile of books and so I say in English "do you work in the airport?" she says "excuse me"? she hasn't understood so she comes around to me, to my side of the pile of books and so i get the feeling that she can speak English a little so i go straight into spanish and repeat it. She says "yes I do. " I think Jeeez what are the chances of bumping into two different random babes who both either work or had worked in the airport. Anyway i go with it and she is there coming on and answering my questions. I tell her what I do and she is like as open as fuck. But my anxiety is cutting in as I forget my time constraint and kinda do this, well nice meeting ya stuff and eject. She says, well great meeting you too, see you around in the airport.

I say sure thing and head off.
Then I head off to another area of my town to get a video for tonight to watch and ask a few babes directions for practise. Jesus is it amazing how many really are so nice and want to make sure you get to where you are going. Two babes nearly got into an argument with each other disagreeing about the exact location of the post office.

Well, all in all, i didn't get a number close but the second babe in the supermarket might have given me her number if I had just said "what time is it please?" and then said time to go to my 7.30 class. how can we continue this some other time?"

any thoughts guys??

Mr. E, you can't be scared to interact and socialize with women when other people are around.

Also, canned material is fine. But as you demonstrated, if you put too much weight on its importance, you won't know how to continue on with conversation.

Try using some material that can segway into anything, and stop going out seeking number closes. Women can sense when there is a motive; if you go in set expecting to leave with a number, you most likely will never get it (for now).

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I respectfully disagree with Locke about not going out to seek number closes. If you meet a nice girl out in public and you don't number close that's one more opportunity lost. Right, you shouldn't make it seem like you have an ulterior motive. When you do a number close it has to flow with the whole pick up. It can't stick out like a soar thumb or a red flag. I think if you go out there expecting to get numbers you WILL get numbers. Why not try to number close every girl you meet? I don't know Locke, I don't know what New Haven is like. If it has a small town feel to it then I can understand where you're coming from. I live in a metropolis of 10 million people. If I try to number close random girl #212,357 (out of that 10 million), who cares if she rejects me? I have a 50/50 chance that she will give me her number even if I have no game. The way I see it, you get rejected and you move on until one lets you number close her. It's as simple as that. And then you focus on the positive.

I agree about not getting number closes, admittedly I am a tad biased because I have no intention of anything that a ONS with most women but yar even before that I used the rule no number before a kiss. It stops flaking and shows it will lead somewhere.

BUt yar when starting out don't take your phone out, it stops the urge to get the number then leg it. Also if the girl want you to have her number she must put in effort to give it to you (such as hunting a pen and paper) again this stops flaking.

Hi,

I don't know. Obviously you mustn't be talking about say cooking and then suddenly say, btw what is your phone number?
But to do a cold approach and then finish and just say, "see you around" would be wasting a valuable lead if things have clicked, wouldn't it?

I think when I go to do a cold approach and set up the whole thing so that you get a short conversation and things go well and you find yourself speaking to a complete stranger as if you had known each other before then it is time to be getting the phone out.

I remember reading here on the forum, that if you get to social hook then always go for the close and I think that it is a good rule of thumb.