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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:37 pm 
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I went to a "patio party" with a friend of mine on saturday, and I intended to use it only as practice pushing my comfort zone. Things turned out much better than I expected.

Party started at 8, I arrived at 8:45. My goal was to talk to every set (maybe 6 sets, 20 women total), for at least 15 minutes. I'm pretty sure I got this done, but it was hard to tell because there was a lot of mixing. I was a "+1" of my friend who knew the host, so I knew absolutely nobody going in.

One thing I did that worked very well for me is I drank at a slower rate. Getting drunk with friends is fun and all, but I wanted to still be a good conversationalist four hours into the party. I had one alcoholic drink for every pair of glasses of water.

I consider myself pretty bad with names, but I was determined to NOT be asking for names over and over. I'm sure it's annoying, and I'm a little self-conscious about it. What I did was, every time I looked around and the sets had mixed a little, I looked at every person at the party and thought of their name. This worked extremely well -- I had to confirm names (i.e., "You're Laura, right?") but I was always correct when I had to ask.

Anyways, come 11:30pm, I begin thinking about trying to move the party to the strip of bars 4 blocks away. The party wasn't winding down, but I know a bartender at one of the clubs and I wanted to test out TD's ideas on Social Proof. I found a few people who were interested in going out, and we all said our goodbyes to the rest but made sure to say what our plans for the rest of the evening were. Our group tripled in size, and I felt like I was the 'ring leader' since it was my idea and we were going to my suggested club with my friend the bartender.

We got there, my friend the bartender is really happy to see me, and I grab one of very few remaining seats at his bar. For the rest of the night everyone was basically gathered around me, people were taking pictures with me, etc... My friend gave us all a round of Jager bombs 'on the house', and I was getting comments like "you're an awesome guy to go out with", and "you have to call me whenever you're back in town".

Some people from the original party left, but they were replaced by new people from the club. We were all there until last call, at which time I was having trouble hiding how exhausted I was.

The TL;DR version is:

Social proof REALLY works if you're nonchelant about it.

Coming up with the idea of where to go next is an alpha move.

Staying reasonably sober will help relatively inexperienced PUAs stay socially aware, interesting, and attractive.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:57 pm 
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Hey Mech, can you explain the idea of Social Proof? And also how you worked it in this situation. I know I read about it in a book, but my memory is hazy.

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Hey Mech, can you explain the idea of Social Proof? And also how you worked it in this situation. I know I read about it in a book, but my memory is hazy.
When a person have little or no information about a social situation, they will look around at the behavior of others in the area. The person will assume that everyone else has more information than they do, and act accordingly.

A non-pua example of this is the following.

Recently a world famous violinist performed a social experiement, in which he took his $3.5 Million violin and played in one of the Washington, DC subway stations. Although his music was wonderful, he made only $32 because people kept walking by ignoring him (assuming he was a street musician).

In a PUA situation, it means that if you surround yourself with people having fun, people who know you, like you, etc.... Others who see all of this going on will assume you're an exciting, fun, likable person.

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Yeah. Social proof is basically being the centre of the social millieu. People will ask "who's that guy?" and girls will be automatically attracted to you just because you are hanging out with those four supermodels or you know everybody in the bar.
To put it simply.
Walk into a bar by yourself and you have to work for peoples attention.
Walk into a bar with an entourage of attractive women and guys vying for your attention, and your pretty much in with every set in the bar.

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I agree social proof really does work, how do u think all these ugly celebraty guys get laid? if u have no tittle it just makes it harder for u. in my last field report theres a perfect example of how much social proof can be important.

Alot of chicks get really impressed when i say im a fitness director, which isnt neccessarily true. i work at the local YMCA overlookin the gym and cleaning the weights and stuff and askin people if they need a spot, and kickin 15yr olds out the gym. just pretty up ur job tittle, like if u work as a cashier at Mcdonalds just say u are a Inside Costumer Support Clerk for a world wide franchise, lol.

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the only problem with social proofing as mystery says, is that when you get into a long lasting relationship with a girl then by the time you dump her (never let them dump you) your social network has drained away because your attention was focused on her. So almost everytime you get a new girlfriend, you will need a new social network and one by one build it up, which could be a pain. :? But for the most part social networking is great :wink:

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