hey guys. When I first joined the forum I mentioned how I got busted using a canned oppener (maury pauvich) but not till later here was a brief version of what I wrote.

hey gentlemen. Im brand new in the pua game and please forgive me for the following.
If you read my intro you can get a better idea of what happened. Long story short. I got 3 number closes at the same bar using almost word for word material from the game (and im still only on page 100 ) the numbers were of three hb7s who all came together and I found them all very attractive. I targeted the blonde soley because she was the easiest to neg. ( i used the cute bugs bunny overbite routine.) i isolated her from the group and brought her to my car but realized I left my keys inside the bar with my friend. when i went to retrieve them the blond hb7's friends followed me out wondering where she was. being a little drunk I got all there numbers ( the targets first) and left.
Last night I called the blondhb7 no pickup. I called her friend the brunetehb7 and she said she would love to come along with me to the bars but her friend was working. I called at 9pm and she didnt pickup. instead she texted me HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICKUPARTIST? i txted back saying no but I read a book on picking up women my freshman year at highschool. whats your sign? lol.
she responded well you are a good one? then she began txting me on the targets phone asking where I was again. and we flirted all night via txt on the precint she didnt have minutes. then at 1 am i recieved a call saying both target nd hb7 brunete were coming over. 15 minutes later i get a text from hb7 brunete and she said target is sick i would have loved to come sorry? i said im sorry shes sick but even more sorry for you. she waid keep in touch. I turned off phone. was this good/bad? where did i go wrong? why no close.

Most of the advice I got from you guys told me I was busted yes, but they were still somewhat interested. I seemed to needy by trying to game all of them. instead of just one. this took place in capecod last week. I dont live in the cape but visit periodically. I just came back from my last visit today and here is what happened.

On the way down I txted the hb7Brunnete because I was sure she was the one who busted me, because she was doing the txt flirting the whole time and is also an archaeologist. I like smart women they give good brain. i asked here what are some interesting places in the area to check out? and hour later at 430 she texts me saying "As you already know monday nights are lowkey...but you can margarita pregame at blah and then go to blah right next to the place we met you at." I didnt respond for a while and then I txted her back at 815 sayingim going to blahrestauarant (not the one she suggested) for dinner and maybe a couple drinks, if u wanna meet up let me know." no response by 845 or so I decided im gonna call her out. if she doesnt come im deleting her number only a hb7 (but an archeaologist thats hot). i txted im going to blahrestaurant at 930 and if i dont see or hear from you by the time I leave I am deleting your number.: P"
hb7 txtd back "Im so sorry I fell asleep! at 730 and I look like shit at the moment and I have to work at 7am! how long are you down for?

I call her 5 minutes later

plaid:hey whatsup

hb7: Heyyyy.

plaid: definently hop in the shower first and then meet me here.

hb7: i dont want to shower, cant we just talk on the phone?

plaid: we can but not really. did you know that 90% of communication is in the body language and mannerisms. I dont feel like i am connecting with a person unless they are right in front of me.

hb7:yea but we can still talk, i have work at 7am and I really would like to come out but blah blah blah gay.



plaid: all I know is I was semi-drunk when I met you and you were a semi-pretty girl who whas wierd and whitty, bizzare yet lovely. I hear your voice but I do not know you well enough to attach the body language and facial expressions to match. I may have to work tommorow? is that all you want to be to me a voice?

hb7: please dont delete my number im really sorry. call me soon?

plaid: maybe *hang up*

I think for about ten minutes. I really want to fuck her just to prove i can to my friends because i had already put a lil effort into her and didnt wanna come up short. but I cant seem desperate. I call her back

plaid: I guess i can talk on the phone. have you ever done the cube thing?

hb7: no what is it?

plaid: close your eyes 'continues with cube thinng'

hb7: you were totally right except i dont think i have low confidence (she said 2' by 2' thats small right?)

plaid: not low just not high, i said as big as a house when asked the same question.

plaid: blah blah elaborating on how it works

hb7: are you a psych major?

plaid: business but psychology fascinates me, so i read up on it alot. speaking of business if it snows i have to go tommorow.

hb7: what do you do?

plaid: repair lighters, lots of people have to light fires ... (no response) I also have a small plow company on the side. tell me im more interested in your field then my current position ( i really was)

hb7: blah blah blahblahb;ahblahblahlblshddfhjsdhj (just checked my phone litterally about 20 mins) blahahahahahahahahahah ( I neg her a several times throughout)bahahahahahahslsldasldlasdahshbcxhzbjhgxjH

plaid: tell you what I wont delete your number if you agree to meet me tommorow... providing it doesnt snow

hb7:your so good.

plaid: good at what? (somewhat sarcasticly she meant my game and we both knew it lol)

hb7: If you dont have to work tommorow I will definentley come out. I get out of work at 530. but I am not just going to be your cape girlfriend (semi-giggling).

plaid: your not pretty enough to be my cape girlfriend (when i reflect on it this is where i think I fucked up).

plaid: IM KIDDING! Ill call you tommoro bye.

hb7: bye.?.

I hang up.

next day at noon its not snowing so I text her saying "looks like im not working today so ill call you at 630ish. you only get one call so pick it up. no response I call her at 645 or so no pickup. I leave the " this is your call message" no response nothing. I sent her the last chance txt message that has worked in the past for me "this message confirms your numbers deletion from this phone" nothing. I deleted her number.

Here is what I think went wrong. I got off the phone to quick after she agreed to the date. and I might have came on to strong seeing as I only spoke to her in real life for 20-30 mins and another 20 on the phone.
DONT GET ME WRONG I DONT CARE ABOUT HB7 IN THE CAPE LOL i just want to learn so the next 9or10 i go after doesnt know what just fucked em.

OPINIONS AND ADVICE PLEASE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE

I suppose I should by the season to make sure i dont use anything from the show lol.

You seem to be giving a lot of ultimatums and threaths. "if you don't do x, I'm deleting your number" That feels like your trying to force her to decide that she like you right away. Remeber, attraction is not a choice, so you've got to make her be attracted to you. Plus, to me at least, it seems kinda needy and jerkish. Especially the last one, the only one call thingy. Guys who are alpha only call once in a situation like that, but they don't feel the need to tell the girl that. You also need to remember that she might've really had a legimate reason for not answering, and you just pushed her away with those messages.

Also seems like you could use some work on your inner game, as you're constantly qualifying your choice in women during the FR. If you're truly confident, you don't give a fuck about what we think of you gaming 7s. And there's definately nothing wrong with gaming 7s. Read more. Finish the game and then grab some book that aims to educate you, not entertain, and you might learn a lot. Venusian Arts hand book is a pretty good book to get started with and to learn the theory. It's canned material is pretty old and used though, but when you're good, you don't need that much canned stuff, and you can always make your own. Or find some new ones on this forum.

good points. giving ultimatims has been a rough sticking point for me, because i hate the waiting game. i want to just not care, but i still do on the inside, any other reccos on inner game improving techniques?

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its definently great advice. the problem runs deeper. i'm new to the game yes, but i dated an hb9 for a year and a half and just got an fclose on one last week. i f closed an hb8 last night. but everytime I do i just subconciously feel lucky. i feel like i got lucky. I know its more then just luck because it happens to me more then ur average afc, but part of me still feels that way. I need some deep work lol. im a great actor so im sure the hb's cant see it when there with me, but when im playing the waiting game like in this case it reveals itself. thus being said inner game is neccessary. nothing works better then true confidence