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 Post subject: Serious help.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:01 pm 
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Hey guys, somewhat new to the forums..

I read The Game...like nobody else hasn't....and I picked up a lot of the techniques and mannerisms for getting girls as well as reading on these forums.

However, I just entered college for my junior but realized something that I knew all along but simply avoided.

I can't socialize with anyone. It's hard to relate and sound confident with anyone without sounding like an idiot. Awkward pauses run long.

Everytime I'm out for dinner with one person, or a group of friends, it is extremely difficult for me to come out to speak of anything. The only conversation I'm somewhat good at is intellectual speaking and "meaning of live" convos...simply because I don't see the meaning because I've done nothing.

Any tips? When I go out on nights approaching women is fine, rejection does get to me a bit but I can still run routines because of the rush of the night. But an actual conversation, I don't know how to do it. I think it may be because of my early family life, since my family never ate together or ever really had a meaningful conversation with either my mother or father.

But seriously, it's just depressing. I'm sitting in my dorm room at 7:00pm going to sleep typing this while everyone else is outside having fun and ready to go out.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:32 am 
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Alad I feel your pain because at one point in my life I was very similar particularly in high school. Now I am in my second year of college and I can say I am the most social guy. People want to be friends with me. Girls appreciate my company. Unlike when I was in high school and most of the first year in college where I couldn't relate to anyone in college and if I tried to I would look as a try hard. Alad the first thing you have to do is be who you are. The reason this is happening to you is because you don't really express yourself and your beliefs. Since you grew up in a different environment as you said you most probably aren't like a typical college student which is 100% okay. Work on being able to express your ideas. A good way to practice is by watching videos of politicians giving a speech they're very good at them because they express their ideas and believe in them. And if your thinking people wont like you because of that it's not true. When I started to express myself and my own ideas the opposite of what I though happened people started to respect me more. People began to see me as a person who is not afraid to express his beliefs and ideas. Besides what people think lets think about ourselves. If we can express ourselves then we can be who we want. Not only expressing but also doing what you believe is true. Having your own opinion. So what you have to do now is practice on being who you want to be. Don't be afraid of what people will say about you. Don't be pressured to do what others do if you don't like it. And have your own hobbies and things in your life your into. In class state your opinion if you feel like it and people will respect you. When you talk to girls talk about the situation your in like in a night club talk to her about different clubs in the area. If your at a restaurant open with a restaurant opener. Just don't be to serious and take things lightly. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious help.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:06 am 
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Hey guys, somewhat new to the forums..

I read The Game...like nobody else hasn't....and I picked up a lot of the techniques and mannerisms for getting girls as well as reading on these forums.

However, I just entered college for my junior but realized something that I knew all along but simply avoided.

I can't socialize with anyone. It's hard to relate and sound confident with anyone without sounding like an idiot. Awkward pauses run long.

Everytime I'm out for dinner with one person, or a group of friends, it is extremely difficult for me to come out to speak of anything. The only conversation I'm somewhat good at is intellectual speaking and "meaning of live" convos...simply because I don't see the meaning because I've done nothing.

Any tips? When I go out on nights approaching women is fine, rejection does get to me a bit but I can still run routines because of the rush of the night. But an actual conversation, I don't know how to do it. I think it may be because of my early family life, since my family never ate together or ever really had a meaningful conversation with either my mother or father.

But seriously, it's just depressing. I'm sitting in my dorm room at 7:00pm going to sleep typing this while everyone else is outside having fun and ready to go out.
It sounds like:

1. You're an introvert
2. You're not assertive.

Being an introvert isn't a bad thing. Think of yourself like a lion stalking it's prey---the gazelle doesn't even know the lion is there. So- relax first. Let the conversation follow it's own natural rhythm and find the beat. If you can dance, great, if not it's not your night so learn something. Also- if you are an introvert you always have a lot going on inside, but you don't know how to verbalize it. Start writing a journal to see how you sound on paper first. Trust me- you have things to talk about. Do you run out of things to say with your friends, or even your Mother? No. These girls are no different.

When you do have things to say, watch the Alpha's you know. They don't wait, they interject and contribute.

HB "I was talking to ____ and she said she saw ____ and I was like...." *interrupt*

Alpha "Holy shit- I saw the same thing it was awesome"

HB "Right, it was like _______"

Alpha "Speaking of that- have I got a story."

Not only did he contribute and validate (exceeding her energy) but he also moved the conversation in a direction he wanted to go. Hope this helps.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:59 pm 
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^yeah, that' s kinda accurate. the thing is that people who are alpha or have social proof, i get nervous around them. sounds cynical but people who nobody talk to are easy to vibe with and just talk about anything. i usually end up talking about random things, and the type of personality i have people always ask me if i'm high, which i'm not.

last night my suitemate and their friends' plans got messed up, and they were in my room and literally everybody was just giving snippets of conversations..."like nice speakers where'd you get that from" or "i love that cologne" or other random stuff. i think it's because i'm just not interested, and it's difficult to seem interesting when i'm constantly surrounded by uninterested stuff. as a joke, since nobody was doing anything, i spoke to a lamp. (in my defense though, it was giving me this dirty look...)

i'll run a journal on here though of my encounters and stuff though, so that i can use your guys' help and improve. if you have confidence and success with girls..hell anybody can do anything i think


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:37 pm 
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^yeah, that' s kinda accurate. the thing is that people who are alpha or have social proof, i get nervous around them. sounds cynical but people who nobody talk to are easy to vibe with and just talk about anything. i usually end up talking about random things, and the type of personality i have people always ask me if i'm high, which i'm not.

last night my suitemate and their friends' plans got messed up, and they were in my room and literally everybody was just giving snippets of conversations..."like nice speakers where'd you get that from" or "i love that cologne" or other random stuff. i think it's because i'm just not interested, and it's difficult to seem interesting when i'm constantly surrounded by uninterested stuff. as a joke, since nobody was doing anything, i spoke to a lamp. (in my defense though, it was giving me this dirty look...)

i'll run a journal on here though of my encounters and stuff though, so that i can use your guys' help and improve. if you have confidence and success with girls..hell anybody can do anything i think
In fairness- You sound pretty lucid in this post so you got it inside you- it's a matter of verbalizing it. I would also work on body language which is about 80% of communication. If you look like you don't take shit; they won't give it.

As far as interesting....try to follow conversations and contribute, you don't always have to say anything. Hell women will do about 70% of the talking if you get them going. But random shit? No.

The thing is: if you act like you're the shit, you talk like you're the shit and you walk like you're the shit....you probably are.


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