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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:35 am 
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Hey this is a mission I concocted for myself to hone my social awareness. It also has the benefit of adding little doses of consistent DHV into your persona (to make up for the many years of incidental DLV I acquired before I knew better).

Spend 3 days letting the other person have the last word in every single conversation that you have. This will keep you socially aware and keep your head in the game. The side effect is that you appear slightly more secure and interesting to everyone you contact.

If 3 days goes by then try another 3. If you can maintain this for seven cycles then you have reached the 21 day magic number. This is supposedly the number of days it takes to build a deeply ingrained habit.

Feedback and stories on how this effected you would be very welcomed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:04 am 
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Not worth doing. Being sociable can be difficult. You're going to make it more challenging by paying close attention to how a conversation ends and twisting it so it fulfills some arbitrary requirement? It sounds like you're talking about text messaging. You don't have any control when someone decides to stop texting you back, so it won't work. If you're talking about actual conversation, this will utterly explode in your face if you're talking to someone shy or who likes you so much she's a little scared. Come up with something else. Why not practice your kino, that's much more important than how a conversation ends.

21 days is not long enough to vet a habit if the habit is difficult or awkward. Going to the gym every 3rd day for 21 days will not keep you going. If you want to brush up on your social skills, record conversations you've had and play them back so you know how you sound to other people. I guarantee this will change how you see yourself in one day.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:31 pm 
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wrong on all accounts, buddy. Already been doing this and it's easy, fun, and keeps you in the moment.

21 days is consider in the health and fitness field to bo the exact number of days it takes to build a habit.

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So when you said feedback would be appreciated, really you were saying you know exactly what you're doing, it works for you, and you just wanted to share. Gotcha. I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say. It would be really distracting for me to try to track when the conversation would end and making sure the other person ends it and then just mutely walking off or something. If it keeps you in the moment, then it's a valuable exercise.

In psychology, 15 times is enough to consider something a habit. 21 is a magical number, but it doesn't mean you can make anything stick by doing it 21 times. But whatever, you're an MPUA and I'm just a lowly guy that's been around a couple years.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Feedback and stories on how this effected you would be very welcomed.
I'm sorry perhaps I wasn't clear enough in asking for what type of feedback and stories. Or I have misunderstood what you have written and you have tried this before with no luck. I was not asking if this was something I should do but asking if it was helpful for anyone besides me. I am fully capable of decducing wether something is helpful to me or not. I am not interested in learning that much more theory on social psychology. I am looking for GUERILLA field test stats.

Don't get your panties in a twist, bro. This "who are you to disgaree with me' shit is silly since we don't even know eachother and we are on the internet. Is it not okay with you for me to disagree with you, or to even reject your advice?

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It's not okay for you to open up to discussion and then not even listen to other viewpoints and just say they're "wrong" when they aren't.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:26 am 
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It's not okay for you to not read my posts before responding.
A) I didn't request advice
B) I never asserted that this exercise was for anything more than maintaining social awareness.
B1)You basically argue that this exercise wouldn't have enough effect on your game to be worthwhile. This is a good thing about the exercise because the exercise is about building and maintaining overall social awareness not about effecting your current game. This exercise won't have enough impact to fuck your game for the moment. In a later post you then agree with it's usefulness but qualify with "keeps you in the moment". Did you miss the fact that that was exactly the point in the exercise from the beginning?
B2) You also mention that it would be better to practice your kino. So by your logic if I want to get much better at golf I should take a chemistry class eh?

You basically responded to this post as if I wrote "Does anyone have any advice for how I can enhance my social awareness". Perhaps you advice on that topic would be good and I would certainly consider asking for it. Basically used my post to assert your own higher value and then used sarcasm to accuse me of participating in the behavior you exhibited after I called you out on it. It's projection. Now you are trying to justify and explain away an earlier mistake instead of just recognizing your error. It's okay though because everyone does both of those things all the time.

The only thing you have said on this particular thread that I agree with is that It's not okay to dismiss someones viewpoint as wrong when they are not.

You are wrong in this discussion

This would be a good example for when it demonstrates higher value to let someone else have the last word. Try it.
I am officially excusing myself from this conversation.

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With the way you like to argue, learning to let other people have the last word would help a lot.


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I do love to argue! I cannot and will not deny that. But once again letting someone have the last word is not the point. I suppose I just recognized that it would be a good one for me lol. Intentionally using the word photosynthesis in every conversation would build the same habit : ) I do however think that would be much harder.

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With the way you like to argue, learning to let other people have the last word would help a lot.
Pahaha, good one.

Anyway, I was saying this experiment wouldn't work FOR ME, because it would be too distracting. When you clarified why it's good for you, I then said
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If it keeps you in the moment, then it's a valuable exercise.
In hopes of heading off this totally fucking pointless argument that has no bearing on anything. Arguing for argument's sake is retarded.

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Kudos, Jits138 for not arguing. I know I probably would've.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:32 am 
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Nothing but love, bro.

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Hahaha, dude I like posts that are potential experiments on social awareness because they almost always end up going againt social awareness lol

BTW What do you plan on gaining from deliberately starting a conversation with someone but knowing yourself that really you are just waiting for them to finish.

Isn't it kind of counter intuitive as you imply that you naturally always normally end conversations your self (lol) and so you want to change this pattern...why?

Also constantly arguing with people over forums is not really being social aware is it?
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Arguing without reason and any care of consequences on the other people involved has to be one of the most obvious ways of showing your lack of social awareness.

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Arguing with dim witted idiots over the internet would simply be a waste of time. I wasted time on minsok because I have seen evidence that he is a worthwhile person to speak to communicate with. You on the other hand have shown no such value. So if you would kindly get up off my dick.

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Actually I take that back. I did get one thing out of your post. I realize that I people keep not understanding what I mean and I did some critical thinking as to why. Social Awareness is the wrong term and I apologize for using it mistakenly. In meditation awareness almost always means self awareness and because of my background I failed too recognize the obvious need for a distinction in the PUA realm. I am doing these thing to develop Social Self Awareness. I once again apologize and I literally hit myself in the forehead when I realized my mistake.

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