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In this post at Adventures of a PUA, Brad lists as one of the characteristics of a WBAFC (way below average frustrated chump) as: Thinks "be yourself" actually means "be yourself". I've read the entire website, and as far as I can se, this statement is never explained further.

In this post at the Attraction Chronicles, Neil Strauss is quoted for having said that you shouldn't just "be yourself," you should be your best self. He elaborated that who we are is often a poor representation of who we really are or who we want to be.

What does this mean? I don't understand it. Can someone explain?

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I think it's the differences between spitting game and just being out and about with your normal life. Like in that book "The Game," he wasn't Neil Strauss anymore, he was style. Now if it becomes your lifestyle I guess that's another story.


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Yeah, like be your lifestyle, not let your lifestyle be yourself (as AFL)

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Yeah, like be your lifestyle, not let your lifestyle be yourself (as AFL)
This didn't make sense to me... :/

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Since I'm from Germany my english might seem weird ^^
Again: If you're an AFL, change it. When you "play" to be a PUA, start beeing a PUA. Become a PUA :) Anyhow like this ^^

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Since I'm from Germany my english might seem weird ^^
Again: If you're an AFL, change it. When you "play" to be a PUA, start beeing a PUA. Become a PUA :) Anyhow like this ^^
What is an AFL? Is it the same as an AFC?

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Yep :) I confused AFL (L = looser) with AFC ^^ sorry

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Spectrum,

What Neil is saying in his book is that our innate fear to approach women, increases our inhibitions....Who we are is usually not who we would like to be when it comes to picking up women. Would you like to be confident around women? Then act confident around them!
You wanne be Don Juan? Then act like your him....! This means that your mindset should be "I don't give a shit! You women don't scare me...." Get it?
When I enter a club and make my way to the bar, this is what I do....when passing sets of women, I will deliberately make eyecontact with each one of them as I pass them. I look them in the eye and SMILE.....Believe me, they always smile back. Give them a real cheeky smile, like your saying: I'm gonna fuck each and everyone of you!
I usually don't say a word, head to the bar, order my drink and THEN I go back to them and do my routine.....works every time...!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:51 pm 
I was wondering what you where doing there. So you caught their eye with yours (demonstrates that you are not scared of them and are confident?) then you walked away (demonstrating you are indifferent to them and that their beauty doesn't scare you?) and return (giving slight interest so as to reel them in?) then start interesting conversation (further reeling?). If I am correct on all these what does freeze outs do?


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A freeze out is usually a mild punishment to the girl. Like when you ask her to kiss you and she won't....The PUA will then wait a couple of seconds, and ask her again to kiss him.
Usually freezing a girl out is done in the comfort to seduction stage of the PU. You've already established some kind of rapport with the girl before you can freeze her out.....I sometimes do a little freeze on the girl when I go to the bathroom and return to find her talking to another guy. I will then stand in her proximity but start talking/flirting with another girl instead. It's also a test. If she really likes me she'll blow the other guy off and focus her attention to me again.....Works every time....!

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In this post at Adventures of a PUA, Brad lists as one of the characteristics of a WBAFC (way below average frustrated chump) as: Thinks "be yourself" actually means "be yourself". I've read the entire website, and as far as I can se, this statement is never explained further.

In this post at the Attraction Chronicles, Neil Strauss is quoted for having said that you shouldn't just "be yourself," you should be your best self. He elaborated that who we are is often a poor representation of who we really are or who we want to be.

What does this mean? I don't understand it. Can someone explain?
Ill give you my take on it:

Everyone is attracted to those people who they perceive as being higher status than them. Its a natural fact of life. Im sure the 'popular kids' when you went to school were complete losers really, but everyone liked them. why? because they were perceived as having high status, even though they had achieved nothing and were usually complete morons.
Whereas everyone is repelled by people they perceive as being lower status than them. Which is why nerds in schools are socially shunned, even though they are probably much better people than the 'popular' kids.

The average joe usually takes the piss (makes fun)and is playful to everyone his subconscious sees as being 'lower or equal status' as him. These people could be his little brother, or his friends. Therefore he kept his friends, and his little brother liked him (most of the time).

However when he comes across someone he perceives as being higher status than him, for example a hot girl, he freezes. He wants the girl to like him, but she doesnt seem interested. what does he do? He acts 'nice'. he buys her stuff, kisses her arse and generally acts as though hed crap glass and crawl a mile through thumb tacks just for a peck on the cheek. this is a crude attempt at making the girl like him. obviously as she perceives him as being lower status than her, she doesnt want anything to do with him.

This is what is meant by 'dont be yourself, be yourself'. Act like you perceive her as being lower status, and shell be attracted to you because she thinks your socially better than her.

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Smoke your actually DLV'ing when you walk past a group of girls, making eye contact, then later approach. By doing that you are also breaking the 3 sec. rule.

Who gives attention to the 'target' then later goes after the 'target'? The AFC does...What value has she demonstrated to get your attention? By not speaking to anyone (male nor female) how much social proof have you demonstrated? I guarantee your method doesnt work every-single-time.

Only time you would wanna make contact with a group of girls that you are walking by is if you have a (s)HB you just met holding your hand folowing you to the C1 location.

But Im not here to attack anyones routine. My comment was that everyone should have an alter-ego side of them so that they can switch into PUA-mode when its time.

This PUA will be Suave, Cool, the life of the party, the guy everybody wish they were, the one who isnt scared of rejection or of the approach. You should also give him a name too, you cant be familiar with someone/something if you dont know what to call it (i.e. Style, Mystery,Grimble, Lovedrop, Juggler, Tyler Durden, Extramask etc...)

When they are themselves they are their BEST selves because they know what their nicknames/alias are, what they mean and what they stand for. They represent who they really are or who they 'want' to be.

So when they put on this alter ego they are in this mindframe they are 'being themselves'..acting as that cool, suave guy who is the life of the party...their 'BEST-self'

dont be the AFC who walks up to the girl and 'lays all his cards on the table' just because thats who he is and thats what he feels like doing...become your 'best self' and steal that 'set' away from that AFC who's being mr. nice guy

thats my interpritation


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:02 pm 
All I can do is speak for myself and what works with hotties I have encountered.

Being Yourself -

You want that ass? Shut Up! Your name is Helen Keller! The more they know or the more you divulge about yourself personally the more ammo they have to trip you up. You want them to answer YOUR questions.

Eye Contact -

Is a must. Scout the room. Look for the eyes or the quick turn of the head away.

What are you looking for?

Do you want a one nighter or leave room for something else. I have divided this into two areas.

Short Game - Going for the easy kill. Alcohol, Loud Music, You want STEAK TONIGHT! In the short game, you want to get them in the sack and have another notch. When I reflect, the one word that keeps coming to mind is confidence. Have I used the same technique everytime? no. Same anything? no. But I always had a little swagger.

Long Game - You nailed her, now you think you like her... Long game gets the 30 day rule. I have not written a book, nor do I intend to, but for me the 30 day rule means that you have the best sex in a relationship during the first 30 days. 30 days is a long enough relationship unless you want a mommy or a wife. In California, your odds are pretty damn good!

Again, I am not talking out of the side of my neck, but from my own personal experiences.


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In this post at Adventures of a PUA, Brad lists as one of the characteristics of a WBAFC (way below average frustrated chump) as: Thinks "be yourself" actually means "be yourself". I've read the entire website, and as far as I can se, this statement is never explained further.

In this post at the Attraction Chronicles, Neil Strauss is quoted for having said that you shouldn't just "be yourself," you should be your best self. He elaborated that who we are is often a poor representation of who we really are or who we want to be.

What does this mean? I don't understand it. Can someone explain?
Hi spectrum,
In my opinion it means that you need firsteful learn who you are. Once you know who you are then try to make this YOU better and better.
That explains why some openers, negs, etc. not work for some persons. Because its not only what u say but how u say it, act, move, look, etc.
If u are selfconscious u will know exaclty what to do and which things of the masters can be useful for you.
Dont try to be like another PUA coz you will never b like that one. But u can be a good PUA as well. Just find your way. For me, thats the only way to interiorate the knowledge and know-how of picking up women.
The aim is to act like a alfa male without thinking about it.
Do not just copy what the masters say to woman but take their knowhow to learn how a womans brain works to make her interested in you and adapt it to your person. Be yourself and make the best out of it!

Does this help you, spectrum?

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YES, BE YOURSELF. IF YOU ARE PROUD AND CONFIDENT ABOUT YOURSELF, THEN BRINGIN IN YOUR MACK GAME WILL BE A SNAP. I MEAN, WHY THE HECK YOU HAVE TO B.S. FOR IF YOU KNOW YOU GOT GAME? YOU KNOW YOU ARE A GOOD PUA IF YOU GOT SOME CHICKS COOL WITH YOUR STYLE KNOWING YOU POOR AS HECK. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY PUA-IN-TRAINING HAVE TO COMPENSATE THEIR LACK OF COMMUNICATION SKILLS FOR MATERIALISTIC STUFF WHICH THEY GOT ON CREDIT/10 YEAR PLAN.


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