Women (the beautiful ones) are brought up thinking that they are God's gift to men, that they are some kind of prize that must be worked for. This is NO GOOD for you, so you HAVE to make YOURSELF the prize. Make HER WORK FOR YOU.

You have to start off small. When you first meet her, don't give her the attention she craves from you. What? Yes. They all crave attention from an alpha male like you. Why do you think they dress like that? Tease like that? Shit test like that?

So anyway, when you first meet her only give her attention when she does something to deserve it. When she behaves like you want her to, giver her the attention. If she does something cute, you can laugh or smile. If she does something you don't like, take the attention away. She has to work to be in YOUR WORLD.

As you progress (you've heard it before and I'll say it again: always BE MOVING FORWARD) using kino, building rapport, etc, move to more physical ways of rewarding her for good behaviour. High fives, hand-hugs (look it up, it's stupid, but it's GOLD), side hugs, etc.

Progressively step it up, and you can even verbalize the reward. Give her a peck on the lips and say, that's for being so cute just now when you did (insert whatever she did here, bought you lunch, told you a joke, beat you at hand slaps game, whatever). If you're a day game guy like me, most of you might need to be on a Day 2 with her before you get to this point.

The point is that you can progressively increase the rewards you give her as you train her behaviour. She does things for you, and you reward her with your affection. It starts with high fives as rewards, and progresses to whatever you want to do for her AFTER she does something for you. See how that works?!!? Now you are no longer buying girls drinks for THEIR company. You aren't doing all this stuff so that you can have the privilege (blech) to be seen with her. NOW SHE is working for YOUR KISSES. YOUR HUGS. YOUR ATTENTION. YOUR SEX.

You HAVE to think this way. THIS MINDSET WORKS 100%. I have girlfriends that WORK HARD for the PRIVILEGE of SUCKING MY DICK. It's all in being strong in your mindset of this.

good post dude this is how it should be. =]

A bit of an extreme way to put it, but I can still see your point of view. And you are correct, you have to see yourself as the prize, not her. However, saying something like "I have girlfriends that WORK HARD for the PRIVILEGE of SUCKING MY DICK," is not, in my opinion, the best way to approach the matter. That way of thinking puts you at risk of treating women like objects. It's great to have high self-esteem, but verbalizing something like that will not help you balance out your inner game.

Yes i completely see your point, and you are correct. A woman is not to be objectified. I use this type of language when explaining it to some of my most, most, most AFC buddies, the ones that get treated like dirt over and over again for being the nice guys, who have been taught all their lives by their mother's and society that the attention and sex they get from a woman is something they don't deserve and must therefore work really, really hard for.

But please don't misunderstand. Every woman I've ever met is a beautiful, tender person inside (well, most... haha). You just have to be man enough to cut through the bullshit. And when she knows "Look, you're not doing me any favors. You enjoy this as much as I do," then and only then is it possible to make a deep connection with her. Adult to Adult.

The real point I'm trying to make is that in the past, I felt I was supposed to work really, really hard to earn the "privilege" of doing with a woman the things that she enjoyed just as much as I did (dates, sex, etc...). As if she was "giving" me something. Think of those couples you see on a date, he's trying SO hard, and she's sitting there with her arms crossed, looking down on him. That was me.

Fast forward to now and women are viewing me as something THEY work for. She knows a manly guy like me will show her a good time, and so she will be attentive and work for my attention, and I reward her with a fun date, good sex, etc! And this is the mindset that got me here.

Mind you I'm no PUA, but I do get the women I want now, and in the "women department" life is good

I was told months ago that after I get past the whole literal "try this on a girl" and "try that on a girl," and I see a plateau in my success, I'd naturally get more interested in inner game and social concepts than specific tools and routines themselves. And that is 100% correct! Now that I've sortof brain-dumped what has helped me get my self-esteem up to normal levels (haha) do you have any inner game thoughts that I might benefit from?