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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:21 pm 
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Just thinking about how I came on this forum 5 years ago, looking for answers on how to
start and continue a conversation with women.

Little did I know that most of what I will ever learn is pure crap, useless in the long run and works
just as a band-aid to try to cover up for a deeper, underlying problem I had.

So this makes 5 years of being on the forum, and prior to that 3 years of looking into it and studying
David Deangelo and similar stuff... total of 8 years.

3 years ago I started teaching this to guys... and learned more from them than on my own.

And after all that time of studying, thinking about it, testing it... I've came to one conclusion.

The entire PUA stuff makes me sick.

And I don't just say that. I mean that from the deepest parts of my heart. I don't know if there
is anything I ever felt more serious about.

Here's the thing.

It's not that I don't like lines and techniques or routines. It's not that I ever gave too much attention
to that...

It's the entire PUA BIG premisse that makes me want to take a garbage bag and clear the stuff around.

The BIG premiss of the PUA has been wrong right from the start.

The BIG premiss of the PUA was this:

SEE BEAUTIFUL WOMAN --> HOW DO I GET HER?

And then the PUA went on that path on studying how to get her, learning the behaviors and attitudes
of guys who were able to get them.

And what has this created?

It has created a bunch of lost and confused guys to learn a lot of stuff that they wouldn't need to
learn in the first place, if they dealt with the reason why they were confused and lost in the
first place.

I know this isn't pleasant to hear for some of you.

I know that some of you lost me already, and have no idea of what I'm talking about.

But really, I don't care.

I'm writing this as my farewell, my goodbye from the PUA and to leave a message to any guy
who has the brains to see through the insanity of the PUA, before he goes in it too deep
and loses himself in it.

What's my message?

It's simply this.

Your biggest obstacle to having success in dating, is your desire to succeed in dating.

It is your investment into studying this that is PREVENTING you from having success TODAY, as you are...
and it is your LACK of focus to YOUR LIFE to make it the way you really WANT it to be.

When you stand in front of a mirror, and look at it with determination saying "I am going to figure out
how to succeed in dating no matter what" is the thing that is your biggest obstacle to succeeding in it.

Here's why.

After all the b.s that I've put in my mind regarding getting women and tried functioning with it, I've
discovered that success with women starts when you LET GO of the need to become good at it...and you focus on building a life that you love.

That's right.

When you build a life that you love, women FLOW to you.

And at that moment, that DOESN'T MATTER.

You want my advice?

Stop listening to the 4 stooges up there smiling on the top of this page.

Because NO ONE has the answers you need.

The answers you need and want with women are INSIDE of you as we speak.

They have to deal with the SAME THINGS that prevent you from living the kind of life that you want.

A while ago, I did a check up of myself and discovered this little lump.

I went online to try to search for what it is...and the results weren't pretty.

It seemed like it was the worst. I decided to go to the doctor in the morning and have it checked up.

That night I did not sleep very well. I thought about my life and what I've made out of it.

The next morning I remember going to a park before I went to the doctor and noticed the sun coming out from the sky overlooking the ocean and just thinking to myself "Man it's so good just to be alive"

I thought about what was REALLY important in life. Besides chasing success, money and pussy...life has
much deeper meaning.

Eventually I went to the doctor...and found it wasn't life-threatening.

It was something that was easily treated with a simple procedure.

But that changed me.

I stopped looking at life the same as I did before. And thinking about PUA wasn't the same.

I just realized the nonsense and disconnection from reality that we share in this community.

I thought about it and realized that learning how to become good with women and living your life
like it was meant to be can be summed up in one sentence:

The sentence is this:

The path to success with women is FREEDOM to BE who you are, DO what you want to do, and SAY
what you want to say.


The path to success with women is NOT in learning a structure of how to talk with them, in learning
systems, in watching YouTube videos and reading a pick up forum.

It is in LETTING all of that stuff go, and going back to who YOU are inside.

Anxiety, fear, not knowing what to say, worrying what the girl thinks of you...all of that is your inner
world that you are trying to HIDE with techniques, pick up structures and the big premiss:

SEE BEAUTIFUL WOMAN --> HOW DO I GET HER?

The real path is about becoming FREE with yourself, where you don't feel like you're not OK, where you
don't try to HIDE your interest, where you don't try to MASK your true personality with some
fake stories.

But in being FREE to be YOU.

Recently I went out...and saw a girl I really liked.

I walked up to her and said, "Man I would love to fuck you."

She turned around, gigled, and in thrown-back mode said, "Whattt..."

It worked.

You know why it worked?

Because I was FREE of needing her, FREE of needing to hide my interests, FREE of what people thought
of me, FREE of getting an outcome with her and FREE to be who I really was, say what I really wanted to
say and do what I really wanted to do.

And if you think about it, isn't Freedom what you're REALLY after here?

Isn't the reason why you came here in the first place in you feeling like you're in prison with yourself?

Isn't the real reason why you want to study this because you feel trapped by your anxiety, your shame
of your desires, trapped by your need for acceptance and to be thought of as cool, and trapped
by your fear to show your real self, your true face and your true thoughts, feelings and intentions?

Isn't it?

The answer is obvious - it was always ahead of you.

FREEDOM.

I'm not going to try to sound cute here, and I'm not going to make it seem like I don't care about
this movement.

But I am declaring today, that this movement has been WRONG from the start, and I just want to
take a huge DUMP on the people that haven't had the balls to say it, especially because their
business success dependent on you chasing the next system that's going to take away all of your
problems and challenges.

Pick up artists will usually talk about pick up as an art.

But an artist's job is to EXPRESS himself and his inner world, not to learn systems and techniques.

How the fuck can you say that you are an artist, if your entire premise is based on NOT expressing yourself,
but following a system that you learned somewhere?

Listen, until you accept and start enjoying yourself and your life, you will not be able to express yourself.

You will stay in this prison of yours.

You will stay a prisoner of your anxiety, shame, guilt, feeling like a loser and living your life like a zombi.

And for all of you that think you bucked the game and you think you're cool because you know how to
get women (yea I see you too).

You suck too.

You're the same prisoners of the same prison...and you're bending your true expression to get a result.

To be clear, I'm not out of teaching guys who REALLY want help to escape from their prison.
I will still be posting and answering questions to anybody who needs it.

But I am out of the systems. I am out of the BIG premiss:

SEE A BEAUTIFUL GIRL --> HOW DO I GET HER?

Instead, I am offering a new premiss:

SEE A BEAUTIFUL GIRL --> HOW DO I FREE MYSELF?

That's my BIG premiss.

So let's step together as a community and let's say GOODBYE to the old big bad premiss.

I'll be the first.

Goodbye.

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 Post subject: Re: My FINAL message
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:37 am 
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It looks like you spent enough time to come to that conclusion. People like me that have never been successful with women don't understand you yet. The whole PUA thing is more like a path to self-realization. I hope that what I learn from this forum will allow me to become that guy that everyone strives to be so that one day I could also write how this is all bullsh*t and is not worth your time. So I would like to congratulate you for finally leaving this lifestyle; now let the rest of us learn from our mistakes by testing them out ourselves.


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 Post subject: Re: My FINAL message
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:28 pm 
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It looks like you spent enough time to come to that conclusion. People like me that have never been successful with women don't understand you yet. The whole PUA thing is more like a path to self-realization. I hope that what I learn from this forum will allow me to become that guy that everyone strives to be so that one day I could also write how this is all bullsh*t and is not worth your time. So I would like to congratulate you for finally leaving this lifestyle; now let the rest of us learn from our mistakes by testing them out ourselves.
I think you have completely missed my point.

It's not that I'm saying that PUA doesn't work.

What I am saying is that doing anything related to PUA will bring you into a WORSE situation
than you were when you began.

The entire premiss of PUA "HOT GIRL - HOW DO I GET HER?" is wrong.

I am not saying you shouldn't work on improving yourself so you become good with women.

I am saying that you should discard the old premiss and take the new one.

HOT GIRL - HOW DO I FREE MYSELF TO EXPRESS MYSELF?

And further, I'm suggesting that the second premiss is FAR simpler, FAR faster, and FAR much more
effective way for you to start being good with women.

The way to get better with women is NOT to learn a bunch of PUA tactics and lines, which you all
love so much, but the way to get better with women is to look WITHIN yourself and work on
FREEING yourself.

So instead of seeing a girl and then submitting your behavior to mimic the behavior of other "alpha guys"... I'm suggesting that when you see a girl you ask yourself, "how do I free myself and express myself
at this moment?"

Here are some basic truth's that confirm that you know this is true:

> You can easily talk with ugly chicks but not with attractive chicks
> You can be "you" with people you know, but you go into your shell when you meet someone new
> You are very intelligent and expressive with your opinion about topics you like, but you sound like
a dumbass when you're talking with a woman

Rings true?

So where's the difference?

Why can you talk with a girl you don't find attractive easily, but with a girl you feel for you have no idea
what to say?

Why can you be yourself with people you know, but close yourself with strangers?

Why can you share and express your opinion in some places, but not in others?

To answer these questions, PUA has offered answers that are going to tell you the "How to..." on
all the topics you're interested in, from approaching a girl to "fuck" closing her etc.

But the PUA has never told you that you ALREADY KNOW how to do all of those things, and that the
real reason is in what you do INSIDE of yourself.

For example

So to go back to your comment.

NO, I haven't spend all these years in PUA to be able to tell you that it sucks. In fact, I spent a very
limited time in PUA and knew immediately it's not the way to go.

Where I have spent my time is in FREEING myself from my own prison, so that today I am able to
make NO DIFFERENCE between a chick I am really interested in, and a chick I am extremely interested in.

I don't choke.

I don't go in my head and start thinking what she thinks of me.

I don't run out of things to say when I start a conversation.

I don't try to hide the fact that I like her and that I want to ask her out.

Etc.

So good luck with yanking the latest PUA tactics, I am here for anybody who already has a hunch that
this PUA is b.s, and that there HAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY to dating women than this.

I am offering a path to personal FREEDOM that I believe every man deserves to have in his life, where
he is free to walk up to any woman, start a conversation, continue it and take it to the next level
with a phone number or a DATE.

I also belive that NO MAN should ever go through the humiliation of trying to fake his "value" or "high status"
just so he can get some pussy.

I think that doing that DAMAGES your sense of confidence, rather than enhances it.

Because, how can you feel confident with yourself, if you know that everything you do is to hide your
real personality?

So again, it's not that I'm saying that PUA sucks...I'm saying that it is the FURTHEST from what is going
to bring you ANY success with women.

PERIOD.

Here are the 5 steps to Freedom:

1. Go back to who you REALLY are. Connect with who you really are inside.
2. LET GO of the outcomes, neediness, insecurity
3. Expose your VULNERABILITY. Be OK with feeling vulnerable, let go of the need to appear strong all the
time.
4. Embrace and start enjoying the UNKNOWN. Let go of needing to KNOW what to say, how to say it etc.
Start enjoying not knowing.
5. Do, say and BE what you really WANT to do, say and BE.

Try focusing on those 5 key principles, copy them and put them on your wall and look at them
every day.

And even though you are just beginning, you will learn more by implementing those 5 things for
5 days, then studying PUA for 5 years.

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