little by little I am less intimidated by the people i see when I go out in uptown NC. But I have noticed a trend in clubs that all the people i see : FOR MEN are tall, big (muscular), handsome facial features, thin(model body build), extremley handsome and loaded with money and Women: tall, sexy, almost all of them hb7's and up. Im 5'6-5'7 green eyes light brown hair I've been called cute mulitple times by women. The point is, everytime i go out to these places where social gatherings happen, EVERYONE is by society's standards beautiful. This doesnt faze me too much. But i cant get the true hb 10's for several reasons. though i am confident with my game and I know i will have more rejection probability from the 10's not beacuse of my game but because the competition with the physically attractive men who are taller and bigger (muscular) than me. I dont get mad at this, but it seems that when it comes to a certain point of the interaction my game cannot go against the looks of a lets say a "male 9 or 10" even when his game is complete SHIT. also i dont see alot of hb 10s with deascent looking guys, all the hb 10s i see with are with musclular dudes or tall good looking mofos lol. not that I am envious of them, I just want to understand why. Mystery, Gambler and Adam Lyons are fairly tall pua's ( ive met them in real life with Mystery being VERY tall). I know these Mpua's teach that looks dont matter but i find this somewhat puzzling to believe, not that i dont believe anything that they teach, but the looks and physical traits department does seem a wee bit challenging. any views people?

I'm in the same boat as you.
5'7"
150lbs...not exactly a big guy.
...and the baby face doesn't help much either...I look like everyone's baby brother.

The problem with being "cute" is that there is nothing sexual about it. The tall, dark, and handsome douchebags spill testosterone all over the place. Guys like us have to present our sexuality in other ways. I've never liked gaming random chicks at the club...there's a lot of risk involved in that. Imagine you're hitting on some girl and her gigantic boyfriend walks up and crushes you with his little finger. Lol, been there, done that.

I'd much rather invite 3 or 4 girls to the club with me (obviously, girls I haven't banged recently). Then, throughout the night, I can dance with all of them. Oh yeah, you definitely have to be a decent dancer if you want to work the clubs. And the dance to make-out transition is critical. Once she's sucking on your neck in the middle of some Usher song...you should be golden.

i agree, but i am moving to a city in a few months and i know absolutley know no one there. i have gone out with girls and use them as social proof no problem. but I have never gotten the 10 or 9. always the 7's or 8's. I think achieving the true random ( that you meet for the 1st time in a club) 10 is almost nearly impossible. I have pulled the right moves and everything but still not true 10.