Having actual respect for women is important to PUA right?

Well I have zero respect for them on every level. I would love to love women, but I have difficulty finding real reasons (that I believe deep down) that make me think they deserve my respect.

I think it comes from a) I haven't had a ton of sex and b) I've done a lot of hard shit in my life and women don't experience anything like that

The way I see it, if your a women then your born on easy street. As long as you can control youself and not be a disgusting toad you'll never have to worry about not having sex (and hey if youre a toad and you barbie yourself up then your golden).

Expectations from others are lower so that women don't have to perform - theres no pressure. This is true in general especially work where I see that women are completely incompetent every time. I very rarely meet competent women.

Its really pretty obvious - women are there to select and receive and men have to compete. Its just how God made it I guess.

Take the animal kingdom - a "successful male" ends up with a bunch of mates. You don't hear reference to a "successful female" because its irrelevent (and I guess a dick way to put that is to say success isn't relevant to females because they don't even compete for success in the first place they just bend over and take it).

And in society nowadays theres a double standard in favor of women. Last month some bitch spilled her drink on me in purpose in a bar and told me to apoligize to her. Had I knocked her teeth out so that she'd never have a bf again (which she deserved) I would have gone to jail. If it had been some dude I would have gotten bounced from the bar. Go figure.

First of all, yeah I definitly got respect for women, but I can see that you've got a lot of frustrations, and I can see a lot of misinterprentations in your post. I know its not nice if someones correcting you, but I hope you'll get my point.

There is 1 thing that really makes me disrespect women. I noticed that all barmen can get women without even trying. Even barmen that are ugly and have no game at all can get hot women. It is really unbelievable. No disrespect for barmen because every human being deserves respect ... but because they bring you a cola or a glass of beer, women just crave for them. How can I ever take women serious ? Last week I saw a barmen that got spontaneously kissed by a real hot girl (HB8-9). I can assure you that this guy would not get a girl if he would just be a regular guy in the bar. Another barman in another bar that looks like a very strange and weird person and with a very boring personality has a hot girlfriend that is bisexual. And the girl does try to get other women in bed because that girl once tried to seduce a female friend of mine. So the guy probably has threesomes ... ALL because he fucking serves you cola and beer. I will stop here because I can make a huge list of barmen I know with hot women.

Some barmen are cool so I can totally understand why they are getting laid. I can understand why bouncers can get laid. But there are so many barmen that would not be dating at the moment if they would not be a barman. And just because they are barman women go nuts for them. Really ridiculous.

I think what you are saying can be for all jobs, I know this is pathetic to quote since its a TV show, but How I met your mother, the main character thinks his job is boring, NPH then says BS you can make any job title interesting, just change the perspective, and then he gets laid by saying the same job same descriptions but in a better light.

Fuck if I went around telling people I was once Steve Jobs personal maid, that I was there when he was inventing his IPod, and he actually asked me to just stay in the room for what ever bs, I think that would be a lot cooler than just saying, I swept up after steve jobs. So I might have exaggerated it with saying steve Jobs but wait...

1. I clean lockers and hallways pick up trash for students

2. I know many wont admit, but I believe I make a difference, there are numerous times within my day, when I will clean out the school locker rooms that students will approach me, talk to me about crazy shit, and actually listen to my advice. Some have even gone so far to call me the real principle of the school cause I do so much shit for the school. (my hs janitor was a pimp no lie, he was boss as fuck, and we actually made a video for open house -- incoming freshman thing-- where he got so rich from working over time, that he bought out our school fired our principle and became principle, then he quit and bought a yacht and now lives on a beach)

All perspectives on how you tell it, you are just being immature and jealous by saying that.

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I think what you are saying can be for all jobs, I know this is pathetic to quote since its a TV show, but How I met your mother, the main character thinks his job is boring, NPH then says BS you can make any job title interesting, just change the perspective, and then he gets laid by saying the same job same descriptions but in a better light.

Fuck if I went around telling people I was once Steve Jobs personal maid, that I was there when he was inventing his IPod, and he actually asked me to just stay in the room for what ever bs, I think that would be a lot cooler than just saying, I swept up after steve jobs. So I might have exaggerated it with saying steve Jobs but wait...

1. I clean lockers and hallways pick up trash for students

2. I know many wont admit, but I believe I make a difference, there are numerous times within my day, when I will clean out the school locker rooms that students will approach me, talk to me about crazy shit, and actually listen to my advice. Some have even gone so far to call me the real principle of the school cause I do so much shit for the school. (my hs janitor was a pimp no lie, he was boss as fuck, and we actually made a video for open house -- incoming freshman thing-- where he got so rich from working over time, that he bought out our school fired our principle and became principle, then he quit and bought a yacht and now lives on a beach)

All perspectives on how you tell it, you are just being immature and jealous by saying that.[/quote]

You didn't catch the point of my post. A barman doesn't even have to talk to women. He has to do literally nothing. Just serving, that's it. Women throw themselves at them. They don't need to DHV, they don't need to lie. Do you think women will go crazy for you when they see you clean the floor ? Unless you look like a model no girl will throw herself at your feet. You need to start talking first before a woman might like you. A barman doesn't need to talk. I saw an ugly barman getting approached by a random woman and get kissed by her without having said a single word.

It has nothing to do with being jealous. I am not jealous. If a barman is cool and/or handsome I understand a hot girl likes him. What I do not understand is how an ugly barman with beta behavior can get really hot women without even trying. You might feel attacked when I say so, but let's be honest ... everyone can be a barman. I respect those people because they work hard, but in the end you don't need to be skilled to become a barman. If tomorrow I decide to become a barman suddenly women will go crazy for me. But I am still the same person as before. I didn't become cooler or whatsoever. Do you see the stupidity of it ?This is what makes me lose respect for women. Typically, barmen are the most simple and most uneducated people in the bar ... at least in the bars where I go. But they get laid like rockstars. How stupid can women be ?

Barman have fake social value. Inside the club they are the most important people because they serve drinks. And that is why they are attractive to women. The DJ is another example of someone with fake social value that can get laid like a rockstar. I have a cousin that doesn't get laid when he goes out as a normal person; but when he is the DJ at the party all women throw themselves at him. How retarded is this ?

ps: I do not disrespect you for the job you have. Every job is important. It is good people are doing the job you are doing. The world needs people like you. But let's be honest, some jobs are not considered attractive. That doesn't mean you don't deserve women. I can tell from your post that you are a good story teller and a fun person to hang out with. That is what makes you attractive to women. But I don't think I am an asshole if I say that the simple fact that you collect garbage is not attractive. It has nothing to do with immaturity or jealousy. A girl can work at Mc Donalds. I respect her for the fact that she works. But the job doesn't really make her sexy. That doesn't mean I cannot feel attraction for her. If I like the way she looks and she is a nice and fun person, I would totally date her.

Yeah but if you say it like that, almost every DHV is pretty weird.

A king is just someone who got luck above by being born by the right mother, so why is someone with just a bit of luck so mutch more worth? And not only more worth at picking up girls, but at normal life to?

I know its weird, but if you like to get more girls by doing nothing, I suggest you'd become barman haha:)

I never really paid much attention to that.


Shit maybe I should just be a bartender...

hahahahahhahaha

You made an excellent point, I am a great story teller, you should have met me in the third grade during reading time... but this wasnt those point you made that was excellent, that was a superb point, but the excellent point was that they have automatic social status, why not cause they serve them drinks, i mean it is a little, it is because woman need them to achieve a goal. With out the barman, they would get no drinks, he is a powerful person now, as a normal guy he is nothing more nor less, as a barman he is the sexy mother ufcking giving them a sex on the beach, or a 7 and 7, hes not just a man he is a barman... or the dj hes the slick guy scratching up some discs to make her dance her ass off and lose 2000 calories, but on any other day he doesnt achieve any of her goals, thus he is a normal man nothing more nor less.

So I think what everyone must do is become a parttime barman or dj, then suck someones dick to get a gig and then get their dick sucked... I mean, this is an option, theres probably an easier less troubling one, but nonetheless, I dont know how far your willing to go.

Anyways... I hear your point, but don't hate on woman, they are given such status because you let them. Seriously, I have spoken to models before like they were garbage men, or garbagewoman (dont think those exists - fuck you feminist and equality ) It is all perspective, that man is an architect or he is the man who just designed the blueprints to that next garbage disposal. Which would you rather talk to?

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[quote="Raphael.Rapoport"]You made an excellent point, I am a great story teller, you should have met me in the third grade during reading time... but this wasnt those point you made that was excellent, that was a superb point, but the excellent point was that they have automatic social status, why not cause they serve them drinks, i mean it is a little, it is because woman need them to achieve a goal. With out the barman, they would get no drinks, he is a powerful person now, as a normal guy he is nothing more nor less, as a barman he is the sexy mother ufcking giving them a sex on the beach, or a 7 and 7, hes not just a man he is a barman... or the dj hes the slick guy scratching up some discs to make her dance her ass off and lose 2000 calories, but on any other day he doesnt achieve any of her goals, thus he is a normal man nothing more nor less.

So I think what everyone must do is become a parttime barman or dj, then suck someones dick to get a gig and then get their dick sucked... I mean, this is an option, theres probably an easier less troubling one, but nonetheless, I dont know how far your willing to go.

Anyways... I hear your point, but don't hate on woman, they are given such status because you let them. Seriously, I have spoken to models before like they were garbage men, or garbagewoman (dont think those exists - fuck you feminist and equality ) It is all perspective, that man is an architect or he is the man who just designed the blueprints to that next garbage disposal. Which would you rather talk to?[/quote]

I see we are understanding each other. Everyone probably has a different view of this but at least in my view it is very difficult to respect women; at least those in bars and pubs. I mean, serious now, just to get served a bit faster and to get the DJ play a song you like, you are gonna have sex with him ? What a retarded behavior !!! I see (even ugly) girls rejecting guys that are more handsome, funny and intelligent than the DJ or the bartender. So the attracting factor is the status they have in this fake social setting. I mean, really, how stupid can a person be. I know that there is no use in questioning female attraction. It is like it is. But that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about it. There are also women that are gold diggers. But people do question that behavior a lot. So why can't I question the mere fact that women are attracted to fake social status ?

I do also realize that not every woman is like this. But I just started this because I am seeing this pattern for many years now, and last week I saw it again but in a way I have never seen it before. So at that moment I was really thinking like "What the fuck ???!!! All because he is a bartender ??? !!!". It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has nothing to do with not being mature. This pattern was confirmed to me due to many years of going out and seeing it. And I still think it is a bit disapointing to see.

And I do realize that if I would become a bartender or a DJ I would get laid very easy. But I prefer to not get laid than have sex with these stupid women that crave for fake social status. I want to filter these stupid girls out. Let them have the bartenders or the DJ's. I will keep aiming for the other women.

By the way ... happy new year to you all !!!

Be the best Man YOU can be. Do not stoop down to their level. Master yourself and the women will come, I promise. Do not ever give up, either way you must live, why not live well?

Not True. Everyone, Every Single person has shit in their life that they think is hard to deal with until they meet someone who has been in worse situations.

The reality of beautiful women is worse. You have to date a few of them to actually know what they have had to go through since puberty.

Imagine this, the best guy friend they have, has actually been wanting to get into their pants forever.

Imagine this, ppl discount every achievement they have had just because they have boobs.

Imagine this, every guy who have ever done anything from them wanted something in return.

Imagine this, their best girl friend actually bitching about them behind their back.

All of the above are real examples
How about being called a village whore even if you've slept with one guy who you really loved and trusted.

How about the guys just spreading rumors about having sex with you just to boost the guys 'social acceptance' when you only actually just spoke to them once or twice.

How about being on your guard all the time!
You are imagining things! May be its true for menial jobs but at the Top Level its competitive.
You need therapy ! As a guy you can choose any beautiful woman to 'spread your seed' but as a woman you have the tough choice to weed out the Betas, inconsistent males from the real man.

Its tougher to find a REAL MAN for a woman in this day an age when most guys are growing up listening to Justin Timberlake

The analogy to Animal Kingdom is used soo often in the PUA community for some reason.

But there is a reason for which we are Humans(the superior being) and not animals. Use your Brains.

One off situation ! May be a Trust fund baby, daddy's bratty lil girl. You could have turned this around.


Man everything about your post says you hate women. Its like wanting to drive but hating cars. Well than take the subway. If you hate women soo much then try men or just pleasure yourself for the rest of your life or even better Go to the Himalayas and meditate - No one said you have to have sex.

as for woman and bartenders the filpside is we are the same as the women, how many of us have hit on bar tender females or even dated one.

most of good pickup is similar to what the bartender is doing...hes got something else to do..he has time constraints..hes not mysoginistic or a drunk player..he gives eye contact and listens.. he talks to everyone..hes not on the hunt and he has choice.

if you love women youll have much better success with the right woman..travel light with less baggage about women.approach so theyre comfortable and have a willingness to walk away and not need an outcome...
let go of the girls that spilled the beer weve all got some learning stories no matter what the experts sell you on.. perhaps for no reason youll get a 'fuk off' or a big amog or a spilt beer from what ive experience..

Many things in life follow a simple rule: "You win some, you lose some"

I used to think that women had it easy, that it was a burden to be a man.
Then I stumbled upon PUA and had the gift to finally understand women.



Women have something against them, their sexuality is 10 times more complicated than ours, they need to take care of their desires while at the same time preserving their value in society, that is a much more difficult game than the one we play.


To be a man may feel more difficult because of the competition, higher expectations and less support from society but it also gives you the chance to become a leader and shape your life.
A harder path, a bigger reward. That is a blessing!!

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