I apologize but im gonna talk like an AFC.
I was always frustrated by women. When I was WBAFC I could never understand women, I always thought that they were kind of manipulative, especialy HB7,8,9,10. They always seemed to be hanging around the assholes(AMOGS no diss to those PUA's using AMOG theory), and yet i heard HB's saying oh why cant a nice guy come along and save me.( I thought i could be that nice guy). NO. Never happened, not only did I not get the HB, but i went and got myself a bad case of one-itis( lasted 6 months or so((im better now 2 weeks max)). When I discovered the Game and the community, i was excited because I thought that I would finally begin to understand them. What I discovered is a harsh truth. Before I thought that I was just unlucky to stumble upon HB's who were "bitches", and i thought that if i ever would win over a "bitch" she would eventually see the real me and like me for who I really am. After being in the game for 8 months I had realized this cannot be so. I have to spit game from A1 all the way through the full monty, and all the way through a "boyfriend girlfriend relationship" I would never be able to just chillax and be who i wanted to be, a nice, compassionate, human being with religious values, because as soon as i let my guard down with any HB past C they would say how much of a pussy I have become because I began to open up more.
Now I feel very conflicted with my inner game, because my stance was that I would eventually be able to let my guard down when in a relationship and stop looking for shit tests in what she says, and just treat her like a person, a friend if you will.
This realization that women never stop giving shit tests, scared me.
Im beginning to dehumanize women, and unfortunately hate them(truely scary, I dont want to but the shit that ive experienced from day 1 has tought me that women really do or at least try to, manipulate, use, ect.)
Im begging to think that women's existence on earth is for the soul purpose of reproduction nothing more.
At times i thought that I had a truly deep connection with a woman and thought that FINALLY! someone who understands me! NO! as much as she seemed like she did,it was just because i successfully spit game when i was with her.
Now I cannot find inner peace with myself, since it seems there is no hope
for attracting a woman who will stop being manipulative ect. after i had gone from A1 to S3.
I truely do not want to USE women, but it seems like they are using men with no remorse, and it angers me to think that way.
Anytime I spit game, and the woman becomes attracted to me I begin to disrespect her for it, since I know that she is ONLY developing attraction because of the routene, or game plan im using, not because she thinks im a good human being who has morals and values and wants good for the world. She wants me because Im a challange. Don't get me wrong I love the female body, and sex but it comes with a price.
I seem to want to invest emotion into any set i open, yet it has proven to only give me a case of one-itis. Whenever I invest emotion into a set, I always get the short end of the stick since im actually trying to connect with my target, and all she wants to do is validate herself to this stranger.
It makes me sad, to think that all women really want is validation, since as soon as i validate her and go through S3 i will have to start spitting game once again, without relaxing and taking what she says at face value.
This shows to me that a woman will NEVER take it easy, and ease up on the shit tests, and the hoop jumps.


How can I save myself from hating women?!?!?!

PS. I apologize for sounding like a total AFC, but i thought that if anyone could put me back into perspective it would be the good people of the PUA community. also, i realize that if i said anything like this in a set i would have stalled it a long time ago, but thats what i dont like, i dont think i will ever be able to open up like that to a woman without completely disqualifying myself.

OK man, you and I are going to "Reframe" how you look at the situation now.

Right now you have this idea that your soft compassionate soul is going to be buried under the maintenance of keeping a HB in check. What you don't realize is that you've got to develop your total self so that you won't need to. So let's expand on what this means:

- Women want a man thats gonna be the "Rock" for her to lean on when shit goes down (emotionally and situationally). She wants to know that your tough enough to withstand the harsh realities of life. However, that doesn't absolve you of any creativity or passion you might have. Your not SUBSTITUTING TRAITS! YOUR ADDING THEM.

- Develop yourself to a point where she realizes she is fortunate to have you. Show her that you possess enough interesting, engaging, attracting traits that if she were to leave you/mess around that any other woman out there would jump on you (Referd to as scarcity).

- Show her that "you get it" (David D), if women know you understand how they work they'll respect you. They'll think "Here's a guy who I can't play my games on." Then prove it by calling them on their shit.

What this ultimately comes down to is that your a beta male playing with the alpha males toys(routines). You've now got to take the step and BECOME the Alpha male. When you do this, you'll develop so much confidence and realize how to just be a better person who doesn't look down on people but rather understands them and doesn't have to play games. You'll "evolve" past the all the small bullshit because you'll understand it. And people will realize this and then you don't have to try because it'll all be natural.

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Holden/28/Canada
Style of Game: Pragmatic Pimp Approach

wow. its ironic how you call me beta, since all my PUA friends(yes all) have told me to read How to Be and Alpha male. I guess I am looking for fault it women when i should truely be internalizing the characteristics of an alpha male, and adding on good trait instead of blaming women for not accepting my betaness lol. but thinx alot holden ur advice gave me a new outlook on things.

Holden hit the spot.
I used to have the same problem too - as soon as I dropped my 'game' and pickup material, they completely lost interest.
But this was because I ONLY had GAME to offer, I didn't have any options within myself that would improve a girls life and give her reason to be with me.

You just need to do everything you can to set the frame within yourself that a girl's life will LEGITIMATELY IMPROVE through being with you, and if they DO leave that your beliefs are so strong you won't see it as your loss. But don't do this in a fake arrogant way, you need to actually internalise it. Just work on absolutely everything you can possess that will improve a woman's life till it's completely part of who you are

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"To guys, getting laid is a chore.
To women, getting laid is a choice"

-Ross Jeffries