I am new and am not sure if this should be here, I apologize if it is the wrong place. Anyway, I was wondering how some people know if a woman is a good target or not. Obviously going right up to a woman and talking to her is best, but for exmaple if you are in a classroom, getting rejected will make you look more beta, lowering your chances with other females. Bad example, but in a few movies (such as ghost of girlfriends past, hallpass, etc) there was someone who could tell if a woman was single, emotionally annoying, etc just by looking at her. Are there any surefire techniques with this? Can you give me examples or send me to another post? I am not only talking about body language, but mostly being able to tell by their clothes and the way they speak. For example there is a girl i know in one of my classes who is very shy and quiet, but I cannot figure a few things out. That is where this would come in. Examples please?

It is a bad example because its false. Getting rejected does not make you more beta nor does it lower your chances with other females. How you handle the rejection is what can hurt you or help you. Walking away pouting ain't going to help you as girls will see that. Walking away still confident and without skipping a beat will be more beneficial.

There is no such thing as surefire techniques for anything. Nor can you figure everything out from just studying a girl's body language let alone from what she is wearing. Being able to tell if a girl is single or not is one of the hardest things to do, especially if she doesn't flirt with you.

There are some signs you can look for to tell if a girl is single or not. One is she talks loud and loud in a fashion to attract attention to her. Another one is she flirts with guys. When it comes to shy girls they may look around the room to see who is looking at them but its hard to tell as a lot of times their head is down. Single girls are more likely to peacock, tho I won't rely on that really. As its far from reliable, as girls that are taking do it as well for the sake of getting attention to see if they still can. But none of this stuff is a for sure thing. A girl talking loudly could be an attention whore or she wanted attention that day because she felt down even tho she is in a relationship.

My advice, try opening a set of multiple girls.
For starters, they won't reject you on a social basis.
Get to know them.
Find the one your most attracted to, find the one thats most attracted to you.
Hopefully they're the same girl, but if not, well you'll know what to do.

I'd also suggest going to the girl who likes you;
Solely for more observation on what a girl that likes you acts like.
Pay attention to body language, it's mostly in the arms and face.
You don't need to worry about every little twitch or itch per se, pay attention to the bigger things.
Is she facing towards or away from you?
Arms open or closed?
Twirling hair, good sign.

Where do her eyes go?
NLP has a map for what each eye movement means, but I think it's bull shit.
Just pay attention to where she looks and what she's doing/ saying/ hearing everytime she looks there.

As for your body language, I definitly recomend obseving other guys with natural game.
You'll notice them doing certain things, like leaning against a wall when talking
Hands in pockets.
No fidgetting.
Only use intentional facial expressions to add emphasis to what your saying.
Basically, you want your body language to say nothing about you.
You are an enigma!

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I actually like all the conceptual advice you gave they are good statements, but there are a few things I'd like to point out that may not represent what you say(to say it diplomatically)

Actually the feet are the most honest part of the body if you want to know what the girl is the most interested in look at which way her foot is pointing. If it is pointing towards an exit, her friend, another guy, bathroom,etc. you need to re-evaluate the situation and get her interests. We have the least conscious control over our feet, when's the last time you needed to think about driving? How about running? Walking? Jumping? It's important to realize we show more honesty with our feet then the rest of our body.

The one exception would be micro-expressions which show so slightly almost only the trained eye notices them but they do show a wider variety of emotion including: Contempt, Disgust, Anger, Sadness, Joy, Fear, and Surprise. You can gain a deeper understanding of how our emotions are used and how we emotionally react in certain situations for a more pure understanding.

Believe it or not every little twitch, shoulder shrug partial shrug, micro expression, hand gesture, means something. It's a reaction to something, maybe a thought, you, something she sees, something they hear. I agree to tell him not to worry about it, as it is pretty advanced and it takes a lot of studying to get to the point where you understand that stuff. Understanding basic body language is the start then understanding details will become secondary.

Hands in pocket is a sign of insecurity, you are hiding your hands. Think of the shy person, they are always sitting there with their hands tucked in their pockets. If a thumb is out your pocket pointed at your genitals then yes that can be a alpha sign but I would lean more on the style of hands on belt buckle or thumbs in belt loop are a lot better because it brings attention to your genital region (another strong alpha trait).

What I've notice about alpha's is they take up more space. They hold their hands on their hips, and hold their arms away from their body, they have a wide stance at least shoulder width apart. The final trait that is very big in illustrating confidence, hold your shoulders wide and relaxed. Don't tuck them away and hide them, or slouch them.

I also think it's best to be illustrative. Why do you want to be this quiet motionless drone named Enigma? You need to be interesting. You need to take into consideration that every other guy isn't getting attention, you are. Start looking at courtship with humans as animals, we "dance around" and gain attention in our own way. Jurupa was pointing out how women illustrate their dance, by being loud, and attracting more attention. If you aren't gaining attention and you are all quiet it doesn't look like a good strong confident mate.

A major sign of alpha males in baboons and humans is being relaxed, but more importantly in baboons (a close primate relative) they proved to have high dopamine levels. That means laugh and smile and have fun. Don't hold back and be this quiet guy, be fun if there is one common trait I've noticed among naturals they always have fun, and men in general who attract a lot of positive attention also seem to have fun (have lots of girls attracted to them). They show low signs of anxiety and depression.

Good post concept but I think those things are a little more on par with body language.

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So true, but there are times when your feet are just point some where, it's not always the best thing to go with.
An understanding of micro-expressions may help, but that's not what you need to focus on when it comes to PU, if your trying to catch someone hiding their emotions, yes, but there are bigger things to look for in body language for PU.
Hands in the pocket aren't always a sign of insecurity.
I think the biggest difference, aside from the thumb, is the arms.
If one's arms are kept really closer to one's body, this is insecure, but if they are relaxed and somewhat spread out, this is comfort, alpha.
Enigmity may have not been the best way to put it.
But you want to keep your body language from giving to much away.
You project confidence, the rest is kept mysterious.

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Na, the feet are very honest, they point at what they like. Sorry but if you haven't paid attention to this you require more investigation in the study of body language. They are never really just pointed somewhere, you just haven't figured out what she is interested in yet. They are pointed at what they are interested in. If that is an exit or a friend or a bathroom that is their intention. Maybe she has to leave for other reasons(not because your repulsive) but she points her foot where she has the highest interest.

Micro-expressions can absolutely be used to your advantage. If you can see a girls face and can identify her emotion and how she is FEELING you can build a connection very quickly because you "SEE" her for what she truly is. You can identify with how she feels by describing a story that made you feel similar. It's very important to be able to have a great understanding of emotions, knowing a lot about them can certainly impress woman and bridge a gap most men don't.

How can you put your hands in your pocket and keep your arms away from your body? Hiding yourself in any form or fashion is in essence showing insecurity. When you walk around a club and notice the men getting lots of attention they will likely have their hands and arms loosely held away from their body, not in their pockets. Illustrators are a sign of charisma, confidence, and that you are telling the truth. Hands in pockets inhibit this, which to me is a limitation and not a good call for showing alpha body language. Why do you think so many books, and people say "take your hands out your pockets"?

I understand what you are trying to say about not SPAM much, but to me this means you are to worried about what other people see. This is a sign of high anxiety and can be a bad thing. Go out and have fun but try not to do it at someone else's expense and you will not only project your self as a confident attractive mate but you will also project yourself as interesting. People always want to be around the people that have fun because they allow them to have fun. Don't ever hold back on having fun in order to appear cryptic, enigmatic, or mysterious, you will simply become a different positive feature rather than mysterious you become interesting. People have a high interest in fun people, they are curious about mysterious people, but only as curious about them as they are interested in them.

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I think this is a situation inwhich Mystery Method 'Indirect Game' would apply. It sounds like you are telegraphing 'End Game' intent when what you should really be doing is working on your 'cocky playful' game. Try this 'Indirect Opener' line... I've been using it with 'great' results: lean over to her, over your shoulder with your back to her and say... All this class work is for nerds... How about this... In my 'next' life... I'm going to be a 'RockStar' and 'You'... can be my 'Manager'!... (She will giggle, then say) We'll throw 'crazy' V.I.P. After Parties... and 'Everyone' will want to 'Be' US!" (She will giggle again) Then say... 'Stop flirting with me... you are 'such' a flirt, I'm trying to learn something here..."... then turn back around... She giggles/blushes you have total classroom DHV. It's game 'on'!