How do you guys usually stand / recommend someone to stand while sarging? Where do you put your hands ( to avoid looking like your fidgeting or nervous even when you're not) how do you position your body, how is your posture like etc.?

I'm asking this question because I just realized today that I have no idea how my body language is like when I approach someone. I know my overall posture can be improved, but since I've never seen a real PUA in action or ever discussed it prior to this I'd like to have a few pointers.

I'd say to try and have a relaxed posture and lean back slightly like you're indifferent and just there to have fun.

When Sarging, I have read and found that you must realise that the party is where you are, don’t look around or eyeball where all the HB's are because the chances are they will get the impression 'this guy is out on the pull and probably desperate' this immediately stamps STAY AWAY on your forehead. The key is, as stated above is to look relaxed in your posture but stand straight, and look like your enjoying yourself, this draws attention to you and makes it seems that you are fun to be around. Also, by standing back and relaxed with your shoulders, when a HB passes buy you can turn and surprise her with the 3 second rule, this makes her not see you coming and the spontaneous interjection is exciting. Try not to put your hands in your pockets because this gives off a vibe that you are shy and not confident in your surroundings - not attractive!
Another pointer is too look at 'Alpha Male Strategies' on seduction websites such as www.Bristollair.com. They give first hand posture and standing recommendations

hope this is helpful

Sterlz

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Yup. That helped, thanks Sterlz.

For others, heres the link. http://www.bristollair.com/inner-game/i ... tudes.html

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Sterlz hit it dead on with this one. I worked as a valet for a while, and when your hands are in your pockets it not only looks unprofessional, it looks terrible. When standing upright, I sometimes put my hands behind my back and clasp one hand arround the wrist of my other so that your not crushing your fingers and look weak or intimidated (this also pulls your shoulders back while still keeping a comfortable look) You can also clasp them in front of you a little bit raised just below the waist line (the palm of one hand resting on the back of the other with the fingers reaching over), have a hand on the waist, etc. Anything that looks comfortable and confident seems appropriate. I would stay away from even putting your thumbs in your pockets. A great way to practice this is at grocery stores or wherever you are... Make a concious effort to keep your hands out of your pockets (it feels a bit awkward and uncomfortable at first, but remember your game should always be on) keep your back straight and you should look good.

I have a bad habit of putting my hands in my pockets. Thankfully, I do catch myself and try to fix it.

for those of you who have problems with their hands: just put your thumb and middle finger together...in this ways, you always can feel if they are under control or nerveous and and also relaxes you

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lol I remember starting this thread. I actually had a lotta trouble deciding an original nickname back in the day and I switched it three times before I stuck with my current one.

Actually, to answer my own question, the way I stand when I enter a set is to have my shoulder in so I am not fully facing the set. My hands... I actually pay no attention to them. I know when I really need to exaggerate something fun I`ll put in some hand motions. I will do some false takeaways (turn around take one step back then return while talking or look at my watch then away from the set)

BUT Ive since learned that subcommunications are still the king. As long as you are subcommunicating the right things, you should be fine. AND also not to scrutinize your own body language down to the last detail becuase it will just interfere with your mindset. Basically, avoid being me from last year.

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This is an excellent topic, and I've read varying advice on standing, sitting at a bar, etc., but I believe the best "advice" has come from grabbing a pad and paper - thinking back to things I've done that got a favorable response, and those that have not - and writing them down.

Where was sitting when that hot girl - or any girl approached? What was I doing? How was I standing? Etc.

Looking at my past 10 negative experiences: I was looking around (on the prowl). And sitting or standing in one place.

Looking at the 10 most recent positive experiences: I was not (seemingly) paying attention to anyone. I appeared confident and not overly interested in any woman at all. I was sitting at the bar - confident with being alone - and she came up from behind and found a reason to speak. I was walking toward the door and she stopped me and said "Why are you leaving?"

The point here is that whether standing, moving, or whatever, if one looks as if they want something, they assentuate the fact that they do not have it, and if they do not have it, they probably don't get it. And if they don't get it, then they must not be worth having!

There is a qualification, however, YOU MUST OPEN THE DOOR. That's it. Do not invite her in, just open the door, and her curiousity will make her enter! You open the door by giving her either an excuse to approach...

In a French cafe/bar in Manhattan, a lady, who was with her "boyfriend," was pushed slightly into me as I stood. She looked at me, we exchanged smiles (wham, the door is open). Fortunately for me, because she had an apparent boyfriend, I did not dwell on her at all, but, rather, passed and sat at the bar. Her group was just behind me. Within two minutes, she tapped me on the shoulder and asked "Where are you from?" Within 3 minutes, the other lady in her group (apparently concerned that she was speaking with me and ignoring her boyfriend, pulled her away). I did not let it phase me. After a few minutes, she followed me to the restroom line. She gave me her number (while from a distance, her boyfriend watched!)

In another bar, where I was minding my own business, two women entered simply to ask directions from the bartender. Not knowing at first that they merely were to pop in and out quickly. I offered them space at the bar (wham, the door is open). The one nearest to me, a tall blonde, then said to her friend, "You know what, let's have a drink." Within two minutes, she turned to me and said "So what's your story?" She gave me her number after they finished, and said "You and I must do lunch!"

The point in both of these samples is that regardless of your position, it is usually best to look as though you are not looking. It is you who are special, it becomes you who are different than all those other guys standing around looking needy, and it is you who will get the ladies.

So do not stand around. Move through the room and open the door for as many ladies as you can: smile. Make a comment (but not conversation), make room at the bar, hold the door, etc, and then confidently enjoy yourself alone without looking around, without seemingly caring. They will come to you.

thats awsum man!!!! thats some great advice

i just realised as i was reading that, that the reason i went so poorly yesterday while sarging wsa that every place i went i wood constantly be looking around for more targets etc

but the next time i go to a party im gonna do what you sed, open the door! thanks alot!

but on to standing, what i liek to do is lean back against something with my thumb under my belt with my fingers pointing at my crotch (just like a cowboy yay!)

much love,
captain amazing

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If you find you put your hands in your pockets a lot try this:

Put only one hand in your back pocket and the other on your beld buckle. It sets the body in a relaxed pose slightly angled backwards. Don't let the belt buckle-hand's shoulder slouch forward because then you'll look like your sick and scratching your ass.

If thats a little too extreme I like this one, good on a subway: right hand (I'm a righty) index finger in front right pocket, thumb in back right pocket. left hand leaning on something, a bar. (or holding onto a ring on the subway) OR A DRINK!

Tell me what you think.

i usally find that holding ur arms back some so they are resting on ur back muscles makes u look more muscular than u really are and u look taller and since iv started doin that girls often aproach me more often and seem interested in me its not always how good u look but how u carry urself.............ohh dont overdo it so that u look like the fuckin hulk but just enough to make u look more musclar and like ur a confident person

sometimes i like to stand at an angle, put my weight on my back foot, and throw my head back slightly. it sends the message of i am the selector as long as mixed signals

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look relaxed. if you have something to lean against then do it. if not then stand there with your shoulders back and chest out. back straight. just good posture basically

for less fidgeting, try this: put your thumb, first finder and middle finger together and hold it like that. This should eliminate your need to fidget (believe me, I am the most touchy person I know and this largely works for me).

Stand with legs wide. Not comically, but a bit wider than shoulders.

Look ahead of your face. If you want to look at something, turn your head.

Look up instead of down unless you're actually trying to look at something.