Who wants to be an alpha male? People that is'nt one. Thats kind of try hard.

Who wants to be in "control of the frame" an stuff like that? You can control a frame, but you dont wanna look like you want to...know what I mean?

The alpha male is the leader of a group...so...

Who wants to be a leader? Being a leader is having responsabilities....I just wanna have fun. I know, being a leader is attractive, but by just conveing that you can lead towards "funny" you get the same effect.

You may disagree with me, but thats how I feel about it.

When you dont look like trying..stuff starts happening.

I don't disagree at all. In fact I totally agree. I believe the desire to become alpha stems from years and years of being beta males and forces one to over compensate for this. I had a friend who was the youngest of 3 boys in his family, constantly picked on (as he saw it). His solution was to get big, work out like crazy and eat. He was trying to make up for his family life and low rank. He never knew it, and I never bothered to tell him, he wouldn't understand it if I did. We worked out together on occasion and I worked out to feel and look better, he did it to build his self esteem. It never did work.

We should all face the facts that most of us will never amount to alpha status and nor is this important to dating. Most women will never reach alpha or 10 status either, but that doesn't stop men from being attracted to them. Being alpha in my mind is being as confident as possible with your true identity and being true to yourself, no matter what other people are doing.

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you can still be relaxed and alpha at the same time , be your best self but be aware how you carry yourself . no need to stick your chest out and act like a tit . improving your posture , voice tone and being aware others are watching you helps you project yourself in a postive confident way . if you project a confident succesful image you will be confident and successful

I agree with the fact that everyone has the right to be who they want to be. If you don't want to be a leader and stay away from having any responsibility for now then have fun with that. I believe that just by being here you have taken a step toward alpha status. I believe that part of becoming a pickup artist (which is why i think most of us are here) is becoming an Alpha Male a.k.a. leader. It just has to do with the where in life you see yourself right now. I think in time your view on this subject will change.

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Well funny < alpha attitude. It's all about attitude. If you are a submissive beta male, you should expect those kind of results (with women, occupation, financial success, social status, etc.).

I think the main difference is being an active alpha male, and being the passive alpha male. The active alpha male is the one who controls all the group's activities, completely orchestrates all the fun and conversations, while the passive alpha male is there to contribute and speak, retaining full alpha male qualities, but just not leading the group so much.

I'm the latter for one simple reason: I am a lazy bastard. It's too much work for me to lead the group, so I just give memorable contributions. Everyone respects and values my words, but I'm less of a leader and more of a... I dunno the word here.

Of course I could be completely wrong, but it's been working for me so far.

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Idd Cig, I'm a lazy bastard too... but a good leader has other people to arrange stuff for him, so it shouldn't even be that much work. A smart leader has his 'people' to work for him, so the leader can relax and protect the hierarchy

Maybe some of you misunderstood me.

I act in a way that you might consider alpha, but I dont need to put my frames over other people's frames, everybody is entitled to have their own views and opinions. I just use frame control to:

a) avoid dangerous situations. Like a girl shit-testing me...

Red: "Seems like all pretty girls have those sandals now"
HB: "I dont have them...look I wear sneakers"
Red: "Who said you are pretty?"

and

b)To have fun

I dont need to frame control everybody, and I find it rather inconvenient, because its a lot of effort, and if you just shoot down people's frames you might look like you are just an asshole.....bullying people. (You might not look like an ass, but at least I fell like one when doing it)

You wanna know whats really "alpha"?

In ancient times women look for men that were able to teach their future children how to hunt and shit like that. Teaching cool stuff to people works just fine now. Like giving advice to a HB's brother on how to PU girls...If she sees it, its a major attraction spike. Or teaching body language to a HB... even some chick crack (I dont like teaching that...kills the mistique)

The real attraction behnd the alpha male is that if a caveman was able to command other men, he would be able to take better care of his family, to protect them better, and to give them a better access to resources due to his social status. So if you can convey that you are an important guy, a guy that can takes care of things, a guy that haves a good career: You'll get the attraction spike.

Thats why you dont need to bully people around to get attraction.

But you can still bully people that bully you first. (AMOGs)

A real alpha male has the inner game going so well that he finds himself comfortable in all situations. You know the guy who just do not let any comment or attack even bother him. The annoying guy that just keeps being friendly and smiling at you despite your best efforts to blow him out. The guy who beyond the shadow of a doubt is in control and does not need to show it.
In short, do not overdo it, just enjoy yourself and AMOG only when somebody challenges you...

Phoenix