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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:25 pm 
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Ok so if I'm walking down the street or a hallway and I see a cute girl I'm interested in should I make eye contact? Also, how do I look more Alpha? Should I look straight ahead or casually make eye contact with people? Im just really self conscious and its something I need to work on more.


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Well, walk like youre the king of kings, like you just had won the world series :D Confidence comes on first place. Make eye contact, but not like some little puppet, but like the king of kings. I suppose you realized what i sad. Anyway, read some good books about body language, i know two really good ones, they really helped me a lot.


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You should walk with good posture and a confident strut, like he said your the king of kings. Like you own the world.

When you are walking down the street keep your head high, back straight, shoulders wide and relaxed, and confident steps. Walk like you have purpose but not like you are in a hurry. Confident people are always at ease, be a relaxed person. Here is a video I did a while back.

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When(not should) you make eye contact smile at them, raise your brows, say hi, wink, some sort of sending a signal that you are initially interested. How can she even send any signal she is interested in return if you aren't even willing to look at her.

If you are self conscious after you fix your body language(they come hand in hand) you should be all about improving your inner game.

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I am with poetic on the make eye contact but don't hold it, thats desperate or creepy, I usually look up, make eye contact for enough time to eyebrow flash(subtle lift of the eye brows,traditionally used in recognition of a person) and enough time for her to see my smile and then break the eye contact so it doesn't look like your staring.

One of the worst habits I had, still kind of have, is that as someone who studies kinesics I tend to want to watch someone closely to read their body language completely but intently watching someone like that comes off as almost stalker staring and that kills your game. Its one of those things I have to self correct constantly.

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I am with poetic on the make eye contact but don't hold it, thats desperate or creepy, I usually look up, make eye contact for enough time to eyebrow flash(subtle lift of the eye brows,traditionally used in recognition of a person) and enough time for her to see my smile and then break the eye contact so it doesn't look like your staring.

One of the worst habits I had, still kind of have, is that as someone who studies kinesics I tend to want to watch someone closely to read their body language completely but intently watching someone like that comes off as almost stalker staring and that kills your game. Its one of those things I have to self correct constantly.
LOL Yeah, you get past that, everything starts to become automated, you don't think about what they are sending the answer becomes obvious. In fact I can't even think of the small things to look for anymore, I just feel when someone is attracted. I don't observe body language at all anymore. Everything is translated without thought.

A good instance was tonight when I walked over to a friend and she was getting hit on by some guy. She had SOS written all over her body language. Neither of the guys picked up on it. I walked over put my arm around her and she smiled and looked up giving me a big thank you face as she worded it silently to me. I didn't even think about it, I came over and acted got rid of the pest and she was giving me plenty of love for it.

You will get to that point as well. I am not scared to make strong eye contact either, I rarely look away before them. It isn't that I am staring it's that I notice everything about her. I notice her little idiosyncratic behaviors, her personal quirks. I tell them what I see, they love a guy who notices them.

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I am with poetic on the make eye contact but don't hold it, thats desperate or creepy, I usually look up, make eye contact for enough time to eyebrow flash(subtle lift of the eye brows,traditionally used in recognition of a person) and enough time for her to see my smile and then break the eye contact so it doesn't look like your staring.

One of the worst habits I had, still kind of have, is that as someone who studies kinesics I tend to want to watch someone closely to read their body language completely but intently watching someone like that comes off as almost stalker staring and that kills your game. Its one of those things I have to self correct constantly.
LOL Yeah, you get past that, everything starts to become automated, you don't think about what they are sending the answer becomes obvious. In fact I can't even think of the small things to look for anymore, I just feel when someone is attracted. I don't observe body language at all anymore. Everything is translated without thought.

A good instance was tonight when I walked over to a friend and she was getting hit on by some guy. She had SOS written all over her body language. Neither of the guys picked up on it. I walked over put my arm around her and she smiled and looked up giving me a big thank you face as she worded it silently to me. I didn't even think about it, I came over and acted got rid of the pest and she was giving me plenty of love for it.

You will get to that point as well. I am not scared to make strong eye contact either, I rarely look away before them. It isn't that I am staring it's that I notice everything about her. I notice her little idiosyncratic behaviors, her personal quirks. I tell them what I see, they love a guy who notices them.
Hey bra, i am somewhere in between with the eye contact. Like, I know how to act strong and look cool in front of a girl. When we lock eyes. I am of the same opinion of you.. When should I look away? Let her do it first! But then my hang up comes in the eye contact itself. I am thinking of my PUA training rather then noticing her most of the time. Like I just am all thinking "Put out the vibe." When I know I should be thinking more like, "time to approach, because, this this and this." How do I go about changing my thoughts about this. Perhaps, your going to say give it some time. I will... Any other advice to the point of, your thoughts in a glance or a look?

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Well when I make eye contact, I try smile and raise my brows. It's starting to flirt right there and it gives comfort when you grant that face. It is the same face their mother gave them when they were babies, it makes them feel good. A wink is another way to flirt, but I rarely do that one.

I don't really think a long the lines of "I should approach because", I look at her body language build an evidence file and say she is attracted and I go over and talk to her. If I would like her to be attracted to me I go introduce myself or open her. If you are attracted to a girl just go talk to her, while you can stick with girls who are already attracted(which is great for building confidence) it doesn't hurt to go after what you want as well.

Just look at it like this, ok her body language says she is attracted let me go introduce myself. If she is sad or scared you can go in with type of body language mirroring or identifying with her and you will get a good conversation started. So don't sit there and list off the details, just interpret the body language and decide on an action, pretty simple.

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If you are going to open maintain STRONG eye contact until she looks away first. Unconsciously gives you the dominance and control. You WON'T look desperate or creepy unless your bug eyes.


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Here's how I do it.

Eye contact. Hold. Don't open your eyes super wide, don't change state. Don't turn your head at her, keep it forward. When she gets closer, you can give her a slow upward nod and your head can turn slightly, some smile helps too but not a shit eating grin. At this point she will either look away (which means she's uncomfortable) or she will look down (which means you need to grab your nuts and claim your spoils).

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Here's how I do it.

Eye contact. Hold. Don't open your eyes super wide, don't change state. Don't turn your head at her, keep it forward. When she gets closer, you can give her a slow upward nod and your head can turn slightly, some smile helps too but not a shit eating grin. At this point she will either look away (which means she's uncomfortable) or she will look down (which means you need to grab your nuts and claim your spoils).
Looking down man?? Why is that so important.. Because its passive? I like this post I have been getting something out of it.

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eye contact is one of my sticking so ill be following this thread


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I have absolutely no problem with eye contact among friends and acquaintances. I hold strong eye contact and imagine fucking her. You can tell girls eat that shit up. However, when it comes to eye contact on the street, I definitely have a sticking point. What's helped me improve is going out in sun glasses. You can watch people and they can't see you watching them. If you do that for like, 2-3 days you definitely pick up on some of the subtleties of body language. Then take those sun glasses off and practice what other people have mentioned in this thread.


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If I were you I would look up David Shades experiments on eye contact on ASF. Mainly I try to get eye contact when she's about 10seconds away then if she holds it say hi, sometimes they will say hi and walk on, sometimes they won't do anything (you didn't say hi in time) and sometimes they will stop and talk wondering how you know them or if you do.


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I still have difficulty getting the girl to look at me though seems to be a almost impossible task think the only way id prob get a look is if i walked around with my kit off


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