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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:49 pm 
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Hi Guys

I believe that my personal grooming is of quite a high standard but having taught friends what small things they can do to improve their grooming makes me wonder if there are any little things I'm missing. I want to ideally get a list that we can all share and work from as I firmly believe that no-one knows what they should be doing until someone else tells them.

I'm not trying to work out what specific styles work best at this point, just the little things that we should all do to look as though every aspect of ourselves is clean and deliberate.

So, here's my list. I'd like to see what you guys can add/change:


1. Hair should have a definite style to it that is maintained regularly. Cut once every 3 weeks for short hair with the fluffy bits at the top of the back of the neck shaved.

2. Side-burns should be deliberate or non existant, not growing down slowly where one hasn't bothered to trim them.

3. Good styling products should be used that make your hair look natural, not greasy or plastic.

4. Eyebrows should be plucked to look defined and symetrical with special attention paid to the mono-brow area and the upper-outer reaches where ones eyebrows meet ones temples.

5. Nose hair should be plucked if visible. A nasal moustache is not a styling choice!

6. Eyes shouldn't look exhausted. Get some sleep!

7. Teeth should be cleaned, flossed and mouth-washed. Mints or gum should be on hand to ensure good breath at all times.

8. Facial hair should be deliberately styled, not left to run wild. Stubble should be a choice not a way to avoid shaving and stubble past say three days growth should have style clean-shaved in by, for example, getting rid of the moustache or hair below the jaw-line so that it's apparent that it's a conscious choice.

9. Ears should be cleaned out regularly with attention paid to the whole ear, not just the ear-hole.

10. Armpit hair should be cut back slightly. You shouldn't have tufts sticking out if your arms are by your sides.

11. Body hair should be controlled if excessive. Back hair should be non-existant.

12. Pubic hair should be trimmed. We wouldn't expect a woman to have a forest so a couple of centimeters off is reasonable.

13. Nails should be short and clean with no dead skin hanging around the base. That counts for feet too.

14. Dry skin should be treated with moisturiser. I personally feel that most men don't moisturise even though they should. I've seen it do wonders to the skin of friends and I've heard women say 'What's with K, he's looking different today'.

15. A good quality deodorant should be used at all times.

16. A good quality aftershave should be used at all times. I know a lot of guys who think that aftershave is optional yet it's one of the things that women notice easily.

17. Your clothes should be clean and fit well. If you can go a size smaller, do it! Good fitting clothes are a way of demonstrating your frame. If you have a larger frame, don't make it look even bigger with baggy clothes, you're not fooling anyone into thinking there's a slim guy under their!


So, that's all I've got for now.

Ultimately, this list will never get you any success with women on it's own. Likewise, you could ignore all these points and still be succesful. This is about tweaking those little things which girls notice but many guys don't realise are important.

I persoanlly feel much better about myself when I have all these points handled. Interestingly, I'm letting almost all of them go as an expirment for Halloween (not shaved in 5 days) and I'm hating it.

In the spirit of leaving them better than you found them and making the pick-up a great experience for the woman I think this counts a great deal. Feel free to add, delete, compliment, criticise, tell me it's important/not important (you're both right) and take away from it what you will.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:53 pm 
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Seriously... If you cannot pickup unshaved in jeans and T-Shirt you should not be picking up at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:29 pm 
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You touched on it in your post. While women are more likely to be attracted to a man who takes care of himself and his appearance, the more important piece to this puzzle is making yourself confident.

I don't think that trimming your underarms, genitals or shaving your back will necessarily help. Some women are very attracted to hairy men. The trick is that you have to be capable of pulling it off. If you look like an orangutan, its probably advisable to look into buying a body-groom, but having a bit of fur under your arms or on your shoulders and back isn't going to scare anyone away if they're attracted enough to want to have sex with you in the first place. If you're a well-honed PUA, they'll still want more even if you have the hairiest back they've ever seen.

Skin-wise, I might add exfoliation to that regimen, along with drinking lots of water.

For hair products, you might add also that you should tailor those products to your hair and scalp. A balding man with greasy hair shouldn't use the same hair cream that a dry-headed curly-haired man uses.

Lastly, although I would agree with you that for most people going with the smallest size that fits is great advice, I have seen great PUAs who do it in urban attire which is far from form fitting. Its all about having a look, and looking like someone whose lifestyle is attractive.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:46 pm 
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Hi Jpow

I think you hit on some great points there.

It is all down to attraction at the end of the day and if you can pump a girls attraction enough it is possible to get her into bed even if you ignore every little grooming detail. I think this stuff becomes more important if you're gaming out of your league but also, it's important in everyday life, work especially. Likewise, I try to appeal to the widest number of girls possible and I think for example, most girls like clean guys in good shape.

With the body hair thing I suppose that you could argue that if a girl gets to see it, you're pretty far along anyway. I just wouldn't want to sleep with a girl and think I got more out of it than she did. The quality of the interaction should be mutual.

I especially agree with your point about clothing size. I suppose you're right in that style is more important than fit. Maybe it's more a case of getting a style that fits your personality then making sure the style fits physically as it should.

My final thought would be 'how can you demonstrate that you can look after a girl if you can't look after yourself' Which is ultimately what this boils down to.

Thanks for the feedback.

Panache


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:15 pm 
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You make some great points too panache.

I'm going to split a couple of hairs here. For your own mental well-being, you're dead on. You want your style of clothing to reflect what you are and what makes you comfortable. For outer-game though I think its more about the message that you want to convey.

In theory, a well-tuned PUA should have his inner-game and bedroom skills to the point where the girl will leave happy regardless of how hairy the poor bastard is. I would suggest that if having body hair makes you feel inadequate in bed, that the issue isn't actually the body hair.

Anyhow I definitely enjoyed your post! I haven't seen it so succinctly listed before.


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