best way to gain abs and big arms ??



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There's something of a conflict of interest here. To gain muscle the general rule is eat an amount of carbs that is in excess to your daily requirement (while lifting weights, of course). To work out and not eat heavy means you're selling your body short, you're doing the exercise but not feeding the muscles what they need to grow. Hence, unless you're bulking up your arm muscles will not be as big as they could be, even if you are working them out.

To see your abs you need to have low body fat. You can have a great set of abdominal muscles but nobody is going to see them if you've got a body fat percentage of 30%.

The general rule is to bulk up; lift weights and eat heavily, and then cut; lift lighter weights for more reps and do cardio, while following a more restrictive diet to lose weight and get definition. Work on growing your arm and ab muscles first, then start a cutting cycle when you think your arms are big enough.

honestly i really do not want to get fat to get muscled. i don't believe there is one way to get strong. some people want the swimmers look, the surfer look, the athletic look, i don't believe bulking is required for all of those types of bodies.
You don't need to bulk, that is just a myth. Dude if you get the right amount of protien and other essentials you can cut and gain muscle at the same time. Everyone says you can't gain muscle on a calorie deficet, guess what as long as your body has fat that fat will be a calorie surplus. It is just broscience.

I have been spending all night looking this stuff up and found out what i needed to do to gain more muscle than fat. Now the big key here is what to eat and how to get these foods in bulk in order to pay less. Also, it seems protein powder is bad for you because they say this is what causes pot bellies. So thats something I need to avoid I guess.


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Whey protein does not cause pot belly's.

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whey protein costs too much though. Normal protein powder thats cheap like body fortress may have too much calories.


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Body fortress is whey protein. It's just a crappy brand.

Go on www.monstersupplements.com or if you're local to Leeds I'll sort you out with a god deal

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okay I went to the site. what protein should I be looking at?


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First of all, I'd suggest you to work your whole body. I see to many guys going to gym working with dumbells and getting big arms while having weak chest, legs and everything else. It looks retarded. Set up a workout routine, i'd suggest you start by doing excercises with your own weight (pushups, pull ups, situps, crunches, dips) and using lighter dumbells (7-10kg) for your biceps. After 2-3 months of working out like this take it to gym.

Personally, I workout 4 times a week in gym and attend Judo 4 times a week aswell. In gym i workout my chest and back, shoulders, abs on one day and biceps, tricpes, legs, lowe back other day. My plan look like this: 2 series of 15-20 reps for endurance, 2 series of 4-5 reps for pure strength. and i do 2 excercises for each muscle i named, so 4 excercies per week. I advise you to buy whey proteins (those which contain around 90% proteins) to make shakes which you consume after workout. Doing this way i've gained around 10kg of muscle massin 1 year without getting any fat, increasing my endurance and strentgh a lot. In other words: I used to be the guy every1 would tickle, now every1 wants to be my friend :)

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First of all, I'd suggest you to work your whole body. I see to many guys going to gym working with dumbells and getting big arms while having weak chest, legs and everything else. It looks retarded. Set up a workout routine, i'd suggest you start by doing excercises with your own weight (pushups, pull ups, situps, crunches, dips) and using lighter dumbells (7-10kg) for your biceps. After 2-3 months of working out like this take it to gym.

Personally, I workout 4 times a week in gym and attend Judo 4 times a week aswell. In gym i workout my chest and back, shoulders, abs on one day and biceps, tricpes, legs, lowe back other day. My plan look like this: 2 series of 15-20 reps for endurance, 2 series of 4-5 reps for pure strength. and i do 2 excercises for each muscle i named, so 4 excercies per week. I advise you to buy whey proteins (those which contain around 90% proteins) to make shakes which you consume after workout. Doing this way i've gained around 10kg of muscle massin 1 year without getting any fat, increasing my endurance and strentgh a lot. In other words: I used to be the guy every1 would tickle, now every1 wants to be my friend :)

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He wants to get big, his priority should not be endurance or high reps. 6 - 10 reps builds muscle.

What's the point of lifting light weighs. Bodyweight exercise has it's place, but if you want to get big, you need to strain your body and tear that muscle tissue. Give your body a reason to grow. Force your body to grow. which means lifting heavy ass weights.

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First of all, I'd suggest you to work your whole body. I see to many guys going to gym working with dumbells and getting big arms while having weak chest, legs and everything else. It looks retarded. Set up a workout routine, i'd suggest you start by doing excercises with your own weight (pushups, pull ups, situps, crunches, dips) and using lighter dumbells (7-10kg) for your biceps. After 2-3 months of working out like this take it to gym.

Personally, I workout 4 times a week in gym and attend Judo 4 times a week aswell. In gym i workout my chest and back, shoulders, abs on one day and biceps, tricpes, legs, lowe back other day. My plan look like this: 2 series of 15-20 reps for endurance, 2 series of 4-5 reps for pure strength. and i do 2 excercises for each muscle i named, so 4 excercies per week. I advise you to buy whey proteins (those which contain around 90% proteins) to make shakes which you consume after workout. Doing this way i've gained around 10kg of muscle massin 1 year without getting any fat, increasing my endurance and strentgh a lot. In other words: I used to be the guy every1 would tickle, now every1 wants to be my friend :)

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He wants to get big, his priority should not be endurance or high reps. 6 - 10 reps builds muscle.

What's the point of lifting light weighs. Bodyweight exercise has it's place, but if you want to get big, you need to strain your body and tear that muscle tissue. Give your body a reason to grow. Force your body to grow. which means lifting heavy ass weights.[/quote]

Just showed him how my workout looks like (I've gained 10 kgs of muscle mass in a year using it) + using own weight excercises before you start going to gym is a good way for your body to adopt to physical training if your starting from zero.

I agree, If you want to get big fast. go do 12-10-8-6 rep workout, increasing the weight, but i really like the way I'm doing it as it keeps your endurance up so i shared it :)


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I'd think I'd rather join the gym and eat a surplus of calories. I recently did pushups, 60 in 20 minutes and for the next two days, my shoulders and high back felt sore. And I have some scoliosis, which might have been the cause.


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eat right? how? i mean its not easy to pick out the right foods at a grocery store especially if you don't eat raw vegetables.


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why on earth don't you eat raw veggies, they're good for you and keeps your fat intake down, the lower your fat intake the easier it is to cut.

if you CHOOSE to not eat healthy because of one of the many BS reasons people give, that's your problem, being cut isn't easy, if you cant hack it that's on you.

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Bicep curls are best for adding mass, proven fact. You can load up on the weight. Keep in mind that for big arms you need to do tris and the side muscle as well (Brachialis)


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Bicep curls are best for adding mass, proven fact. You can load up on the weight. Keep in mind that for big arms you need to do tris and the side muscle as well (Brachialis)
sorry but that isn't entirely accurate.

obviously working out the bicep muscles in the arm will increase the size of the muscles in that area.

Squats, bench press and pull ups are the best for adding mass as they're targeting the three largest muscle groups. Your biceps are a synergist in most chest and back workouts so they will get larger proportionally. Doing bicep curls is an isolation movement focusing on the upper arm area which will stimulate the biceps brachii and brachialis as a synergist. Tricep extensions would be the antagonist workout targeting the triceps brachii


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Right...I was using this strictly as a "bicep curl is best for adding mass to biceps" as an isolation exercise, not compound nor adding on the muscles worked during bench presses, rows, etc. It's in my muscle mag from last month anyways.
Overall thing is don't neglect the tris...too many ppl go for bis, forget the tris and thus look disproportionate and/or are at risk to injury.


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