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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:52 am 
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Hi guys,

My Social status isn't good and I don't have many friend \=
So this vacation I decided to change my Social status! (:
I am trying to talk to as many girls as I can but it doesn't seems to help..
I am to talk to guys to but I don't know what to talk about you know we have a few moments of laugh and than it is over! \= :oops:
So guys what do you suggest me to do? how to increase my Social status?:roll:
and what do you suggest me to do about talking with guys? that I don't have what to talk about. \=
And if it matters I am 16.
I am sorry if it doesn't belongs to that forum :?

Thanks,

Jow :roll:

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talk about what you want to talk about, and start believing in yourself, and find your own solutions to your own problems, and test them out

start thinking for yourself, figure out what you want in a friend and what you want in a girlfriend, look for those things, when you have found them, take action towards pro-actively allowing those things into your life

don't look to others to do things for you, don't look to others to make you happy, do everything for yourself, take responsibility for everything, make it happen, don't sit back hoping it happens, and or trying to figure out how it could happen, JUST DO IT, then reflect on how you can do it better, after you have done it

keep meeting guys, and keep meeting girls, figure out what you want from an interaction, and bring that to the interaction so that you can enjoy it


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I am trying to believe in my self but it always comes to a akward point that me don't have what to talk about. \= Do you think that DHV stories will help me?
Sorry for the double post.

thank you. :D

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I am trying to believe in my self but it always comes to a akward point that me don't have what to talk about. \= Do you think that DHV stories will help me?
Sorry for the double post.

thank you. :D
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dhv stories, are just sort of like time fillers, you can relate to her through story telling and if the stories are interesting and you frame your self as cool, it will dhv, but for her to relate you to being cool, it takes a bunch of cool stories in succession and she has to believe it is congruent, the idea behind this is, tell a joke, people laugh, funny joke, tell a alot of jokes, people laugh, funny guy, same shit with stories, tell a cool story, people are interested, cool story bro, tell a bunch of cool stories, people are interested, wow, cool person

don't get to caught up in what to say, this is you being nervous and becoming self concious, if you can't focus externally and just enjoy yourself, you will kill your own vibe by going into an introspecive thought pattern and you will start to react to everyone around you, what you say is of little importance, it's how you say it, not what you say, the flow of the conversation is important and how to lead, be sure of what you would like to talk about, what it is per-se is not important, if you are not good at reading body language, and you have trouble empathizing, then you will probably have problems keeping a flow going, how you feel and why you are talking and where it is going is more important then what you say, when you feel good, and you lead, she will start reacting and also feel good, when you feel neutral, she will feel neutral, as long as you are enjoying yourself while you are speaking to her, she will enjoy herself, and if you are not thinking negatively about yourself and you realize you are good enough for this and believe in your self, you will project this on to her, when she ''likes'' you in the emotional sense and assositates value with being around you and has good emotions assosiated with you, you have attraction, if you think someone has a high social status and is projecting an abundant interesting lifestyle through dhv stories, then you will be more interested in seeing the fun behind that and checking out that abundant lifestyle that is demonstrated through story telling, but if there is no fun and you realize the stories are bullshit, then the value that you precieved them to have is lose, then you will lose interest fast, dhv stories are like your way to quickly just show, blah blah blah story blah blah blah i'm this kind of guy, this is the sort of value I offer, you can tell by my story see how cool and interesting I was in my story, that's me, that can create some interest with people if the stories are interesting and you live up to them but just actually being fun to be around and being confident about what you are doing, and DEMONSTRATING the value, instead of telling stories about times when you demonstrated the value, will take you further, just actually living a dhv story through confidence and being awesome, showing them you are confident and awesome by being, rather then telling

so for example, dress up sharp, tell women your a millionaire buisnessman, wear a rolex and have an expensive suite, and roll up in a rented ferrari, they might believe that, and become attracted to your money, see that there is big time value to hanging out with you cause your lifestyle is awesome, so, get them home in the ferrari, they show up at some shithole appartment and find out you just blew the next 3 months worth of rent on getting that ferrari for the night, BAM, all value is lost, girl finds the incongruence, game over

girls want cool, confident awesome high status guys, you can tell stories about being that kind of guy to try to fool them, but if you are not that guy, they will eventually find out, just work on yourself until you know what you are doing and trust yourself, you will just become one of those guys, you don't need stories that dhv (although they might help you if you just need something to put on auto piliot for a while to get comfortable), you just need to live a life that DHV's, just be higher value for real

so if you don't get the idea, for example, last wednesday I had a conversation for at least an hour with my girlfriend, talking about how we should dress up like bears in bear suites, and go to the science center, get ice cream, and then start making bear noises, she kept calling me a fag for wanting to make bear noises, and I just held up the fact that she obviously doesn't know shit about making bear noises and she would look retarded if she wore the suit but didn't make the noises, as in, how could someone in a bear suite eating ice cream look legit, if they didn't even know how to do a bear mating call... seriously, so anyways, totally retarded subject, has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but later on that night before she hit bed, she texted me and brought up the bear thing and since then she has brought it up again, and it works simply because it is congruent with me, she knows what I am like, and what is congruent for me, and we have chemistry, if there is no chemistry between you and someone, and they don't like your style or personality then they probably don't share the same sense of humour or have the same values/ideals on what makes a good friend/relationship and it would be a mistake to hook up with them in the first place cause after sex gets boring, WAALAAA SHITTY TIME WAS HAD BY ALL, and sex does get boring with the same person over and over and over for an extended amount of time

and instead of avoiding making yourself vulnerable and hiding who you are, learn to have confidence in yourself and become comfortable expressing yourself, people just tend to gravitate towards confidence, it's nice just to sit back and let someone else do all the work while you react, harder to think for yourself then someone else around is probably more sure of themselves and can do it for you, don't fall into this trap, don't get lazy, set your own rythm and be sure of what you want

if it is just about the sex for you, then talking is not the important focus, compliance is, and a sexual frame, you want her alone, you just want to get horny yourself and put her in a horny mood, put your hands on her and makeout, progress to sex, talking has very little to do with the actual action of you getting laid, unless the discussion is making her wet, talking is your tool to open her up to the idea of meeting you and getting comfortable enough with you so you can pull off the escalation, once she sees that you are an interesting person and wants to know you, that is it, you just get to know her so she is comfortable enough with you to be alone, and the escalation gets you laid, it is very rare for you to talk your way into a girls pants, so just drop the idea that it is so important, it is only important so that she sees you again, and sees value in the idea of being around you so that the comfort and attraction are there to set up the logistics, and if you hit a point where you have nothing to say, you can listen to her and be fine with just being, no one needs to talk at any point, it isn't awkward, it just is, the only time this will be awkward, is if you are self concious, because you are looking for some way to show her you are good enough, but the thing is, you are already good enough, you should be leading and seeing if you like her, instead of buying into her shit and trying to get her to like you, if she doesn't already like you, then the whole approach is a waste of time, it should just be assumed she likes you, you're just getting her comfortable with you so you can escalate and build up that tension

and that comfort and connection, as well as your ability to escalate, are probably the two most important factors, think of it like you are making a best friend, and really trying to know them, and at the same time, your going to make out with this best friend, and put your hands on them, and treat them like they have vaginas and are sexually desired as a result, there is no shame in that, you wouldn't be worried about what to say to a guy who was going to end up being your best friend would you?, it is what it is, you're a guy, shes a girl, P goes in V, that is how life is, it's no big deal, if she has hangups about that, she probably has some sort of weird issues or something around sex, so it's just you and your possible new best friend who you are interested in making out with

TL;DR if you are stuck with not knowing what to say, clear your mind by speaking it, if you can't there is probably something in your head you are afraid to say, just face the fear and say it anyways, they are just words, a girl can hate you today and love your tommorow, or love you today and hate you in an hour, they are just words


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Hmm at your age, I think picking up older women might be a challenge. But for girls your age, all you need is practice. Use canned material if you have to at first, but slowly learn to weave in your own stories.

Building social status takes time, but the great thing is that, when meeting complete strangers, she doesn't know that. One thing to note in my opinion is that social status isn't very important. You don't necessarily need validation to practice game. All that matters is that you are someone who attracts her.


At the same time, you can and should invest in yourself, to improve you. Be it learning a new skill (I always recommend cooking, maybe even NLP), noticing and improving the way your dress and carry yourself, or maybe even increasing your general knowledge. Essentially, look to improve you as a whole, your inner game. Over time, this helps with you being able to weave in more DHV stories that aren't canned.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:33 pm 
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Thank guys! you really helped me. (:
By the way can you give me a source with DHV stories because I could find. \=

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Well buddy, you're in the same position I was in last year around the same time im 17 btw lol. Best word of advice I have for you is believe in yourself and truly love yourself. Sounds vague and alot of people probably tell you that, that's the way I use to look at it and I scoffed at it. But that was a huge mistake. Anyways also try and relax a little more often, when you're around people dont try and think what to say next, it gets you nervous and youre not having fun. Main reason people chill with other people is to have more fun. Cause you know more people= More fun. Anyone can flow with other people just dont worry about what other people will think of you, and get all of the negative shit like "what if they dont like me?" or just negative remarks that bring you down out of your head. So if you do this you can talk and make friends with people alot easier cause you're enjoying doing it. The mind is a tricky motherfucker, believe me.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:48 am 
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Thank to you!
But like when I go out with friends I am not the leader of the team, I shy with them.... :oops:
but when I go out with my closer friend I am the leader.. \= :D

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you see the whole "I am not" thing is holding you back, it's part of an ego created by your mind that you're not a leader. Ok you said you take charge when you're with your other friend right? ok that means you can take the lead role, even if your other friend has a lower social status or you're more familiar with him. If the other kids have a higher status, just be confident in yourself and dont think either one is better than you. You need the belief that we're all equal, so you have nothing to worry about. Whenever I hang out with more popular kids, I dont even think about their status I just sell my personality, and they respond. There's a human aspect behind getting a so called "social life". Remember just be yourself, that's as human as it gets, and you'll be straight, promise.


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but it's easier said than done, keep that in mind too lol. It takes awhile to change an attitude or a way of thinking.


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You have some great advice here and you will be wise to follow it. I myself am 18 and had very poor self confidence when I was your age, which led to the development of a "social" mask to cover it up. I can tell you that improving your social status is no easy feat, not only your false sense of self your ego will hold back as marino mentioned but your friends will as well.

You must be careful not to be drawn back into your current/old mind patterns/behaviours which your friends will attempt to do as they will fear change in you because it brings to light there own insecurities. Whenever you feel yourself being dragged back into your old state of thoughts and behaviours you need to consciously correct it. For me this was done in many ways firstly I straightened my posture as this naturally increases your confidence and then remembered my goals and if I was around friends deal with the situation accordingly. The fact you are using your vacation to increase your social status is a great idea, you may want to use the time you have now to to read books on body language, pick up etc. One book I would highly recommend is the power of now by Eckhart Tolle. I hope this ramble was relevant to your issues and I wish you the best of luck.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzK3g0pT ... ure=relmfu This video explains what I'm trying to get at.


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Plain and simple.

Dont think so much and just be you! You have a voice use it.
Share your opinion on things crack jokes be u bro. Just mellow
Out n dont over think. I do that sometimes and it gets me in a
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Here's an idea for you. Move away from things that reinforce your old self image and move toward a new one. That means molding your environment to strengthen your new one. Look into prosperity maps, goal cards, and put reminder notes on mirrors etc.

Start going to places that are 'abundance settings' such as Barnes & Noble, the library, or business/success/health seminars. All these places are filled with people seeking to grow and build themselves. Thus, associating with these people will build your self image and confidence and attract more people with the same traits. This is a better strategy than just attracting anybody to say that you have a social circle. Choose your social circle wisely, because they will impact your life in all areas! :)

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I can't add more than pumpington wrote. Follow his lead.

BUT you MUST read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie.

I read the book when I was younger than you and reread it at 16. That's when I took the most out of it. Have read it 4 times over.

This book is THE book that EVERYONE has to read at least once in their lifetime (big hyperbole...or maybe not :wink: ).

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yes, that's a good idea, bro!

just believe in yourself!


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