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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:58 am 
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im new and all so i dont know if this is obvious, but i just had the idea of working on improving my life, like playing sports, joining a club, take up a hobby, or whatever, instead of memorizing weirdass phrases and analyzing hella random shit. Like i just had the realization that what's happening in this idea of "pickup" is your basically trying to disguise your "value".
I've heard the saying "chase money not women", and i dont mean this as in disregarding every female that comes your way like many males do, but having something more worthwhile then trying to find "love" or "pussy", while having pussy on the side.
but again im pretty new to this, feel free to throw any philosophies of life theories, lifelong regrets or marrying the right girl stories


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:26 am 
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basically what you are suggesting is no different from what 99% of all pua material is suggesting, except they include those ''weirdass phrases and analyzing hella random shit''

because perception is reality, if you are an awesome guy with an awesome life, but percieved as a loser, you will probably be worse off then being a loser, but percieved as being an awesome guy with an awesome life, at least until the girl clues in that you are ''faking it, until you make it'' and it was all an elaborate act,

you have to not only possess the value, but you have to be able to project it as well and market yourself effectively, or it's useless anyways

a good looking guy who can't approach and can't escalate, won't be getting laid as much as an average guy who can, a rich guy is not going to be pulling girls into his lifestyle if he has no idea of how to meet and connect with them making his lifestyle available, a guy with a sick social skills is not going to develope a social circle if he never leaves his house to put them to use

nomsayin? there is improving the proof that you possess status, then there is utalizing it and being able to effectively communicate it

it's like penut butter and jam, one makes the other better and they work together in unison to make one kickass sandwitch


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im new and all so i dont know if this is obvious, but i just had the idea of working on improving my life, like playing sports, joining a club, take up a hobby, or whatever, instead of memorizing weirdass phrases and analyzing hella random shit. Like i just had the realization that what's happening in this idea of "pickup" is your basically trying to disguise your "value".
I've heard the saying "chase money not women", and i dont mean this as in disregarding every female that comes your way like many males do, but having something more worthwhile then trying to find "love" or "pussy", while having pussy on the side.
but again im pretty new to this, feel free to throw any philosophies of life theories, lifelong regrets or marrying the right girl stories
Too many guys get the wrong idea about "pick up," and so they approach it entirely wrong. They think pick up is about women, and so they tend to focus on techniques and lines to get women. But, they ignore the real issues, the "inner game" issues. What we call "inner game" is really self improvement. Everything about "inner game" is what is taught by all the self-help gurus like Anthony Robbins and Wayne Dyer. Pick up is not about women. Women are just a byproduct of becoming a complete, mature, masculine man.

What pick up really is, is a search for masculinity. You're not picking up women, you're picking up yourself. We live in a time period in which men are stuck as grown boys, because we have been emasculated and not taught what it means to be a man. We are missing our masculinity, so we subconsciously search for it and try to find it in different ways and different places. A man is supposed to go to a woman to offer her his strength. But, we don't feel like we possess any real strength or value, and we value women more than we value ourselves. So, instead of going to women to offer them our strength, we go to women to find strength, to make them our purpose, to drink from their beauty. We think to ourselves "if I can just get a beautiful girl in my life, I'll be happy and all my problems will go away." or "if I could just bang a different girl every night, I'll be happy and all my problems will go away." They think that if they have sex with a lot of women, it will make them feel like a man, that they will finally find their masculinity. But, femininity arouses masculinity, it does not bestow masculinity.

David DeAngelo in his "On Becoming A Man" series, has a chapter called "Build a happy single life." What he emphasizes is that your focus should never be on women. If you are doing something because you think it will get you a girl, then you are doing it for the wrong reason. You should be doing it for you. You should be building your life so that you have so much going on, that your life is so busy and so interesting, that you are perfectly happy being single and don't even have time for women. When you have a happy single life, women will be naturally drawn to you. Women don't want to be our purpose. You should have a purpose other than women, and you should build your life so that you feel complete, even without a woman in your life. Then you bring a woman into your life, not to complete you, but to share your amazing life with her.

To many guys do it backward. They try to find a woman, or women, first and then build their life around the women. Those guys are doomed to fail, because they will never feel happy or fulfilled.

All you have to do is go to Relationships forum for proof of what I say. That forum is filled with threads from guys whose girlfriends are losing interest. They all want to know "what should I say to her? what should I text her? How should I act? Should I do this? Should I do that?" They are looking for a quick fix, a magic bullet. They are focused on techniques and lines. But, the answer is simple: they lack inner game; real confidence, strength, masculinity, value, and integrity. They attracted their girlfriend by acting cool, using lines and techniques, etc. But, after a few months, they've been exposed as a fraud, and their girlfriends are no longer interested or attracted.


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just have to say, love the title of this post :D


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This thread title is epic!


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The problem is, I don't have the money to build an attractive lifestyle. Also, I am very unmasculine. Really skinny, tall so what kind of lifestyle can I lie about? All I do is play fantasy sports.


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LOL @ will identifying a problem but not doing anything about it

Being a high-value male is hard work. It's not just being good-looking or having money. It's being socially aware, intelligent, and fit. With that, girls and good job opportunities are available to you. And when you progress in each of those levels evenly as a renaissance man, the girls and the money will come.

I'm a sales professional and game helped me with work. And my sales tactics at work also helped me with game. I sell gym membershps and I put effort into my image, which helps me with both work and girls.

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The problem is, I don't have the money to build an attractive lifestyle. Also, I am very unmasculine. Really skinny, tall so what kind of lifestyle can I lie about? All I do is play fantasy sports.
Start doing things. Hit the gym, start playing instrument, become badass at cooking, do some hobbies. Get away from the computer. Then start meeting women and talking to them. This is a start.

But first you need to decide you are willing to change.


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The problem is, I don't have the money to build an attractive lifestyle. Also, I am very unmasculine. Really skinny, tall so what kind of lifestyle can I lie about? All I do is play fantasy sports.
But first you need to decide you are willing to change.
I can't stress that enough. You have to first make that decision. Do I want to actually change? And more importantly, am I willing to do what it takes to change?

I'm seeing this girl who thinks she is too fat, has low self-esteem, and wants to lose weight. Last night we were at In and Out Burger and she asked me to get her ANOTHER order of fries when I went to go get my shake. People like that have no intention of changing or losing weight. They just want to bitch and whine about not having the type of body they want, then stuff their faces because they have no self-control or common sense.

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