This is actually more problematic than those of you who are suggesting just making them less AFC realize. For starters, women can spot them a mile away. It doesn't matter if you're the coolest guy in your group if your group is totally lame. I'm not the "alpha" guy in my group, but I don't think anyone is. My group consists of literally thousands of acquaintances in the nightclub and entertainment industries. When I'm with my friends, it's obvious that we all have our own sense of style, our own direction and motivations and that we're all comfortable in our skin and surroundings. If your friends aren't like that, they're going to be taxing on you.

I own a nightclub and have a share in two others. It doesn't matter how cool you are. If you've got 4 lame friends with you, you aren't coming in my club. Girls don't like it, my performers don't like it, my promoters don't like it, and the camera doesn't like it. Lame guys affect my bottom line so they don't come in my club, it's not mean, it's business.

When I'm with my friends girls approach us, it's rare I have to approach the girl I want. I've established a strong enough lifestyle now that I've pretty much ended night time approaches. You can achieve this too, but you've got to get in with the right crowd and just hang out with those "afc" friends on nights and days you aren't planning to go out. I've got some friends from highschool like that. I'll be friends with them for life, but I've never invited them to my club, they're too awkward and not willing enough to make the commitment to better their appearance.

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Thats pretty cool that you can run a solo club mission and have a good night! Definitely something that Im working on. I have 6 close guy friends and im the only one thats single.. the rest are all either married or practically married. Was it hard getting over the anxiety of going out alone?
Thats one of the issues I have SPAM.

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You become who you hang out with. This applies to so much more than pickup and your sex life. If your friends get laid a lot but are lazy, sarcastic, drugged-up lowlifes, should you still hang out with them?

My social circle has shifted pretty massively in the last year or so. Basically I realised that my old friends, while they're mostly nice people who I still have respect for, weren't doing me any favours and if anything were just holding me back. (Not just in terms of meeting women.) So I made the conscious decision that I was going to let them drift away.

This isn't easy. Firstly, as you change, a lot of people in your life aren't going to like it, and some may start to resent you. This might make you feel guilty or bad about yourself. That's life. If you're sure you're making the right decision, don't let yourself get distracted by a misguided sense of loyalty.

Secondly, your social life will probably get worse before it gets better. Part of the reason it took me so long to decide that I needed to ditch my old friends was because I was afraid of being friendless without them. And it did suck for a while, and my social life took a nosedive, but eventually I started to meet more people who are more compatible with me and who I feel better around hanging around with. It's still an ongoing process, but I'm happy that I'm on the right path.

The thing is, I don't think I could have done in this the other order - I had to make room in my life by letting the old relationships go before the new ones would have been able to show up. It's not easy, but that's how it. Changing your social circle is not easy but definitely worth the cost in my experience.[/list]

A while back when I decided that I wanted to be more social (before I discovered the game) all I did was start meeting people whenever possible and straying from my comfort zone. If anyone said "do you want to come to this party" Or "do you want to meet up with this group" didn't matter who it was, I would do it every time. At the parties I would always make an effort to talk to and introduce myself to everyone I didn't know.

If I had two options for a night, I would choose the one with the largest number of people I didn't know.

At first my close friends found this a bit strange, since I was choosing to hang out with randoms over them, but once they started seeing how much fun I was having I would invite them along and they would come too. This really helped to broaden my social circle and start meeting new people and making new friends, and it also made my friends a lot less AFC as it rubbed off on them.

That's my advice; of course that was when I was at uni and there was loads going on all the time but the same can apply anywhere, if there's nothing going on, just invite everyone you know nearby to your place for drinks, tell them to bring friends. I've been doing this a lot recently too and it helps put you right at the centre of your social circles. You're always the one introducing people and hosting the parties!

I hear what youre saying but its never that black and white. Cant just drop people that youve known and are really close with for yeaaars. If you could, were they really friends to begin with? Just cos they arent an asset for pick up, doesnt mean you have to drop them.

In my case, im 30 and almost all of my friends are now married and moving on to a new chapter in their life. They used to be awesome wing men but now thats done. Should I drop them? No. Should I expand my circle to find more single ppl? nost definitely.

Totally agree about the henpecking women though - right on the money with that. I dont do the "couple get-togethers". Makes me wanna ralph.

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there is a lot of stuff here most of it is a broken record - "your a chode you cant come in my club" go make friends at the bar blah blah blah.

find your local lair .....its a simple answer

they will welcome you
lairs dudes want to go out
they want to hang with dudes that go out
they arent all afc and you all have the same goals in mind
and generally they are supportive and positive the best friend group that isn't girls you can have.