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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:41 am 
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This might be kinda long winded but stay with me. I'll start with a little back story about myself, then to what I discovered/changed, then all the science to it. So stay with me.

I guess I'll start this with most of my life I had been deeply unsatisfied. Always comparing myself to others. If I was doing good at something or completed something it wasn't good enough and I still felt like shit. I was extremely motivated to do better for my life and find happiness.I had a really bad oneitus for about 2 years. The girl was my ex girlfriend. After I broke up with her I just couldn't get over her. She was super hot, artistic type. Most of my thought patterns revolved around her. I would wake up in the morning why it didn't work and what I needed to do to be a happy person (literally every morning was like this). This lead me to do tons of research in just about everything regarding relationships, psychology, NLP, and hypnosis.

I started getting into PUA when I was 19. I thought that if I attained something that I would finally be happy. Because of that I dated quite a few girls, I moved all over Michigan. Between the ages of 17-22 I lived in Standish, Sterling, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Bay City, and Midland. Always trying to find a way to beat the deep level of unsatisfaction I felt. In my final attempt I researched what city I thought I would be the most happy in. I decided on San Diego. I sold my car, my drum set, all my books, just about everything I owned. I bought a plane ticket and set some things up to live downtown. Although after being there for 2 weeks I was already feeling deeply unsatisfied. I had no where else to turn and I thought I would just never be happy.

I tried what just about every PUA guru suggests. I fucked other girls, used NLP, used hypnosis. These things worked for about an hour or two. Then all the old thoughts would come back.

It wasn't until I came to this form and at about the end of December Bravo mentioned the no-fap January challenge. I opted in for it at about the 3rd day I was thinking "Why the fuck am I doing this?!?" and I watched the video and realized how big of an issue I had with porn. My issue with porn was so bad that even when I was with my girlfriend and we were living together. I would have sex with her and then she would fall asleep. I wouldn't be able to fall asleep so I would grab my laptop and go into the bathroom and look at porn/fap. Sometimes I would do this 2x a night.


I became very interested in Gary Wilson's research. I've spent most of January and some of February reading every article on his website studying how the brain works. I even recently got the book "The Brain That Changes Itself" (a book gary wilson recommends). So many things started making sense as I read more and more.

The changes I felt after not looking at porn and masturbating after two weeks was absolutely amazing. I was still talking to my ex, but things just didn't bother me. It was by far the most powerful thing I've ever done. The best way I can describe the difference is when I'm looking at porn regularly she becomes like a super goddess and the center of my world. When I'm not looking at porn she seems more like a human. I don't put her on a pedestal and I have a highly level of "I don't care."

Onto the science! For those of you who haven't seen the video I'll be covering that, plus even more detail. When you look at internet porn it's considered a super stimulus that releases an assload of dopamine (the brains natural reward neuro-transmitter). It releases so much that it releases and additional chemical called delta-fos-B. What this chemical does is it starts destroying Dopamine receptors.

Why is this important you may ask? Well, if you take any mammal/primate and notice the different brain structures there's one major key difference. Alpha males have a higher amount of dopamine receptors in their brain. In primates/mammals, if a alpha gets taken down and a beta male starts taking it's place. The beta males brain will automatically start making more dopamine receptors. I believe this is why most PUA guru's will say "Fuck Ten Other Women" or "Go hit on and fuck other girls" Because for them it might have worked and caused more dopamine receptors in the brain. Although if you're looking at porn a lot the benefits you would have had from hitting on/fucking other girls will be destroyed by the Delta-Fos-B.

Another thing that was really interesting that I read is that if you were to take adult rats. If they were exposed to multiple fertile females and the rats had sex with them. After the excess of sex the rats had their brains started changing. The changes were their brains started with aspects of reduced androgen (testosterone), increased estrogen's, and some other things that aren't really good for the alpha male brain (sorry, between the beginning of this paragraph and now one of my female friend friend's came over and we just got super hammered so I'm trying the best I can now).

In the game, I'll be paraphrasing this, I believe there was a part where Mystery had a fall out with one of his girlfriends. When that happened Neil Strauss mentioned that Mystery spent a day or two looking at lesbian porn on his computer. Is Mystery's (in the game) level of unhappiness related to that instance of looking at porn. I believe so, although I may be wrong.

I've played around with fapping to porn and being completely on no fapping/porn. It's made the biggest difference's in my life. I've noticed when I am fapping that I completely idleize my ex. When I'm not I can give or take her. I become more attracted to other females (I believe this is extremely important in motivation.) when I'm not fapping. It opens way more opportunities for me and I feel a lot better about myself this way.

I've noticed many other things.I've noticed that the girls eye color becomes more important to me and that her overall 'qualifications" become more important to me. I'm not talking about the concept of qualifying a girl based on your intellectual representation on how you think it should be. I'm talking about when you're actually hanging out with her you're pondering whether it's really worth the risk of having sex with her, the risk of having a child with her to raise forever with her. To me that was a big difference in my mentality.

I'm actually too drunk to finish what ever I was going to finish this with. I guess if anyone has any questions leave them and I'll get to them tomorrow when i'm sober, Sorry for getting really drunk too fast, although a girl came over, got me hammered, showed me lots of IOI's and wanted me to give her a massage (I'm a CMT (Certified Massage Therapist) and I really like my work). Let me know if there's anything I should expand on,


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:15 am 
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Wow. That is extremely interesting.

I kind of have some personal experience with this. I workout a lot and I have trouble gaining weight. So I did what any wannabe alphamale would do, steroids. By the way, this is like a month ago. Well if you have ever taken steroids you will know that they mess you up. There's no way around it. The first week your sex drive goes crazy. You'll be wanting to have sex with trees. Crazy stuff. Well, when you get off of the cycle, you're supposed to use a thing called a PCT (post cycle therapy). Well I got some Vitrix, which is NOT a PCT. It was better than nothing. I lowered my dosage from 20mg to 10mg daily (orals, way worse for you than injections). The day I did that was hell. Serious depression even though I had spent some quality time with my oneitus. Then a week later I completely stopped the steroids because they were just ruining me. That day was even more hell. I got into a fight with my boss that morning and walked out to my car. I sat in the driver's seat and just started smashing my head up against my steering wheel, then I punched it as hard as a could a few times. I wanted to kill myself. It was inescapable.
Well about a week later I was back to my very happy nice guy self. I have been off the steroids for about 3 weeks and have yet to regain my sex drive. It is non existent. I watched porn a few days ago but it was for research. I know that sounds weird, but I am looking into producing.

I am extremely happy all the time. It also helps me with girls, because I have no hormones messing with my train of thought. I would honestly prefer this state. It doesn't sound good when you're in your normal state. Who would want to stop wanting sex? It's not bad though. I would still love to have sex with a girl that I am in love with, but I have no desire at all to have it otherwise. If I did, I would find myself pretty frustrated.

I'm sure it will come back and I'll get back into watching porn. I have never used drugs before, but when I watch porn I definitely get high. I would assume that's the dopamine. However, if I watch it daily there is much less of it. The less often, the more dopamine. Thanks for the write up. I am definitely going to try to suppress my sex drive a little bit when it comes back.


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:51 pm 
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Agree wholeheartedly with OP. Porn is like a vacuum of negativity that always takes me in a downward spiral. What I have discovered since middleschool: Not watching porn and not fapping makes me incredibly vibrant, my mind is exponentially sharper, faster, and more accurate, and I lift stronger and with more energy. I am much more confident, charming, patient...all the positive traits of DHV.

There are several theories, each of which I subscribe to in different degrees.

Yoga theory: semen is like potential energy which nurses and restores balance to internal organs and the mind and spirit. Retaining semen (at least for minimum periods of time) is the only way to "level up" your spiritual state (also mentioned in Tai Chi).

New age theory: semen is potential energy that can be transmuted into any endeavor, like rocket fuel and your mind is the rocket pilot.

PUA theory: fapping and watching porn is like brainwashing yourself into placing women on a pedestal and lowering your own self worth.

Physiology: fapping creates a temporary strain on your central nervous system. I liken this to lifting heavy weights--your CNS is overheated for at least a day or two and you will not be up-to-par in strength until your CNS has rested. Except with fapping, you also experience a hit with neurotransmitters like dopamine and dopamine receptor sensitivity.


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