Through my life I've aquired some shady friends and I wouldn't say I was that nice also with a past involving some events up untill now i'd have to liked to have pretended never happened, untill now...

I've met a really nice girl and I wouldn't call it one-itis but it's got me thinking that if I bring this girl into my world I'm going to change her.

The girl is also a speed seducers wet dream all I have to say is the world butterflies and she is writhing with the feeling.

Also I feel the community doesn't deal with the darker side of live which becomes a normality for people growing up in rough areas where walking tall and looking friendly could get your head kicked in, also the girls want 'real' bad boys.

I'm tired of pretending I'm a pacifist/nice guy who is scared of trouble. When in truth I'm a recreational drug user, occasional dealer with a lot of scary friends. anyone else feel in the same boat?

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I am a nice guy. But I'm certainly not a pacifist. And I got a lot of friends who you might call bad people. And a few people who really don't like me. But most of them are in jail for other crime now. I don't think I've got morals, I'd do anything I wanted, e.g bank robbing, if I could get away with it. I'm not going to post things I've done, I'm not stupid. But when the reward outways the risk, I do it. And I don't do violent crime, that's stupid. Drugs, the penalty outways the profits, in my opinion.

I never hit anyone first, and never would hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. And I don't boast about the fact that I've been in a lot of fights, and never lost. But if we're talking about it, I don't avoid it, I protect those I care about.

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well, i hope that's not your real pic. 0-o If you're going to reveal the darker side of your character to this girl (and other girls) I would start practicing mixed martial arts (jui-jitsu, muay thai and boxing) so that when a regular guy (not a criminal w/ a knife or gun) talks shit or harasses your girl, you can just beat the shit out of him. & all girls love "bad boys"; nothing else gets them hotter.

And what type of "scary friends"? Are we talking gangsters? loan sharks? do they carry guns and beat the shit out people? As long as all of them are good friends that would never narc on you or start shit w/ you that's probably fine. Don't hang out w/ guys you're not 100% sure you can trust.

I used to hangout with some shady people and have had a strangely eventful life. I don't think it makes a difference what you have done or where you are from the girl likes you.

Also I think if you have to tell someone this stuff then you aren't as bad as you would like to be. If they ask tell if they don't good.

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I'm part Mexican, so if I say anything that's seems racist or insensitive, know that I am talking about my own race.

But I've spent a lot of time in some bad areas of south central, east LA, el monte, and highland park; and you are absolutely right. I find that even when I'm driving down the street, cholos lock eyes with me like we are enemies or something, just because I have a confident stare. If you walk around with strong body language, some insecure gang member is going to "check you", to prove that you're not as tough as you look. These people are like animals defending their territory, and if you look like you don't belong or like you are a challenger, they will take you down in a heartbeat. I laugh a lot of times when gurus like Tyler say, "you're not going to die if you sarge the wrong girl", because I was a bouncer for many years, and I have seen people die for stupid reasons just like that. You piss off the wrong guy in a club, and he will be waiting for you in the parking lot.

I went to an all Mexican club a while back, and none of this shit works in that environment. What does work is looking like you stepped out of a rap video and acting thuggish. Most of the girls in that club didn't speak a word of English and had no interest in talking at all. All those girls wanted was to be grabbed by the hand, freaked on for most of the night, then (depending on your car) getting laid. It truly is a different world that I don't think most of the gurus can possibly understand.


My best advice for you is to try and make some innocent friends. When you are the only "tough guy" in a group of innocent people, you are like their protector/leader. Not to mention innocent girls love thuggish guys for some reason. Being from the hood is like being the ultimate bad boy, to some middle-class girls.

I consider myself a very good person, but not always nice. Nice and good don't always go hand in hand. Good people make choices based on bettering the world for themselves and the world around them, where as nice people make choices based on submitting to the will and whims of the nearest person. You can agree to kill someone to be nice to the person that asked.


I am a recreational drug user too, I don't deal drugs although I did in my teens. I drink, and really enjoy it. I think Mystery is part of the reason the community is calibrated against drugs and alcohol as he normally abstains and is a massive influence on most people on these forums. Also, most of the people on these forums probably haven't had the same exposure as you. Also many had some pretty overbearing mothers (which is part of the reason they had poor skills with women)

None of the above make them wrong or you right, it's just that different social situations require different social behaviors. And of course recreational drug use and alcohol use is really a personal choice that should have no impact on pick up.

Just my thoughts,

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Well in all honestly not everything is set in stone. There are parts of the game that are shady in a way that involve different communities, backgrounds, and lifestyles.

I'm mexican american. I'm from El Paso, TX. My family came from right across the border from Cd. Juarez, Chihuahua, and if most of you don't know that is the most dangerous city in the world (that is not in war).

My cuzin got shot with an AK47 that practically sawed him in half while they held my aunt at gunpoint and made her watch. He was involved with the cartells, and I think somewhere along the line he messed up a deal or something.

An uncle of mine recently got murdered while he was driving home. They confused him for someone else and shot him. They shot his face up so bad my family couldn't identify him, and they had to do a DNA test.

I could go on, and on about the tragities that happen but I can tell you from expirience that even though it is the most dangerous city in the world, game still works. I won't lie, there are definately some occasions that are hard to tell what might happen, but it involves a lot of street smarts. Cholos have a tendancy of checking people but they're still people just like everyone else. They still laugh, cry, and bleed just like everyone else. Don't try to AMOG a cholo cuz that's just gonna piss them off. Instead try getting along with them. Hold the door open for a cholo at a grocery store and see what happens.

I've gamed girls in Juarez, but it only happened because I was familiar with her enviornment, language and background. I grew up in the area, and I know how things are. I would not have been very successful if I was a complete foreigner, just because I probably wouldn't be very good at communicating.

Honestly guys, be safe. Don't do something crazy that'll get you killed. I say this from the bottom of my heart. Be smart, and make good decisions.

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