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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:49 pm 
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What does it mean to be true Alpha? I think so many have misconception about this, there are so many pua's who act like duchebags, downtalk people, refuse to listen, etc....guess what, those things don't make you alpha.

I have stumbled onto an observation recently. Over past several years I have been studying philosophy, theology, psychology and most importantly great people of our time.
I was doing this because I did not want to be 'fake' alpha, I wanted to be that guy without faking it. I went off to achieve this goal and still working on it constantly improving who I am, becoming a better me, becoming true alpha. This was no longer about pickup but a deeper project of self development.

So what makes one a true Alpha you ask? Take a look at all the great people...what do they have in common?
1 - Relating to people - No matter how great they can relate to small people and connect with them, they see even a child as somebody who they can learn from? Thinking that you know more than everyone else does not make you alpha.
2 - Listening - Great people want to listen, fake Alphas want to talk.
3 - Learning - Great people learn non stop, they read...don't just read all PUA material...where do you think most of it come from? None of this stuff is new it has been written somewhere else before, hundreds of years ago....read some great books damn it.
4 - Make decisions - Great people make decisions, and don't flip flop. Stop thinking about it, you already know what to do and do it.
5 - Alpha actions - Study animals, what do alphas do? how do they act? They provide, they keep safe, they take care of needy

Just had to post this because I see so many dudes trying to act alpha instead of actually trying to become alpha...its so fake, people see right through that...it so much easier and feels so much better becoming a true Alpha than all this fake crap.


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I think you forgot the most important part, real alpha's never tried becoming alpha - they just are.

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I think you forgot the most important part, real alpha's never tried becoming alpha - they just are.
I don't think there is such thing as Natural Alphas, I think a True Alpha is a composition of certain talents and qualities.
I believe most people who we see as Natural Alphas gained those talents and qualities at a young age. Most great people were not born great, they learned from trial and error.

This is where nature vs nurture argument may come in. I strongly believe in 10,000 hours of expertise theory. There has also been recent research where humans are able to develop new natural qualities, it takes several years tho.


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5 - Alpha actions - Study animals, what do alphas do? how do they act? They provide, they keep safe, they take care of needy
Alphas in the animal kingdom beat the crap out of the other males in the group then fuck all the females. In our society they'd be thrown in prison.

Human Alphas are more social alphas. They are natural leaders and people are drawn to them. Alphas are in charge of their own lives and don't look to others for approval, others look to THEM for approval. Their frame is powerful and unshakable, they have strong personalities.

You can't really learn to be Alpha but you can learn to maximize your own natural Alpha traits.


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someone who is alpha is just someone who is

1 mature
2 got his shit handled
3 loves and respect himselfs
4 accepts himself and his sexuality
5 cares about other people without compromising his self esteem and values

it's just a regular dude with the traits i described above...

if you don't know what alpha is then probably you aren't a mature guy ... you probably are a childish or boyish figure who isn't accepting his manhood.
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I think you forgot the most important part, real alpha's never tried becoming alpha - they just are.
this makes me fucking laugh ... such ignorant.... alphas never tried because they had the right parents .. the right friends and they right factors... total flukes that made them confident wihtout them understanding why .. lol .... did you think michael jordan became a great basketball player without practicing ?

telling people they are born that way is just a fucking excuse .. because they don't want to take action themselfs and instead they blame others.

being alpha and power over other is some fucking illusion...your girlfriend doesn't care if you are alpha or not .. she just wants emotional affection...your creditor doesn't give a fuck about you being alpha...

it all comes down to growing into a mature man.. loving and respecting himself with a strong set of boundaries. a man who is here to help others and himself only seeking out win-win deals.
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Alphas in the animal kingdom beat the crap out of the other males in the group then fuck all the females. In our society they'd be thrown in prison.
i beat the shit out of everyone but im not fucking all the females ... what does that make me ? lol ... i like to beat up arrogant .. ignorant alpha guys in the gym

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I think you forgot the most important part, real alpha's never tried becoming alpha - they just are.
this makes me fucking laugh ... such ignorant.... alphas never tried because they had the right parents .. the right friends and they right factors... total flukes that made them confident wihtout them understanding why .. lol .... did you think michael jordan became a great basketball player without practicing ?
Let me rephrase that. True alpha's never try becoming alpha just for the sake of being alpha itself. Aspiring for a certain state (being alpha in this context) inherently implies that you currently do not possess such a state, otherwise you wouldn't try being it would you?

So, in short, aiming to be alpha, is beta. Aiming to be the best, and accidentaly becoming alpha in the process, that's alpha.

What is up with the hostility by the way? Frustrated much?

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im not being hostile ... im being honest...

the ego is always active.. on a concious or subconcious level you are always trying to find ways to get better and fuck other people over.

the ability to observe ego and processing your emotions is important. Once you click on the thread called ''alpha'' you are already trying to get something out of it.

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It is difficult because if you are not Alpha then it is hard to train yourself to become an Alph male. The thing is to never give up and look at every situation and think on how you can improve it for the next time it arises.
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Always think to yourself that you are the best and always right and the rest should come naturally.

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Judging from this convo Adolf Hitler = ALPHA!


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Hitler was an alpha. How do you think that he went from being a small leader of a small faction in the 1920's who had little political influence, to leading the Nazi's to become the most powerful and influential political force that Germany ever has seen?

His speeches were passionate, and he employed powerful frame control. Of an entire nation! Of course he was alpha! I don't agree with his message at all, but I completely agree with the fact that he was a complete alpha.

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Alpha aint gotta flex nuts, cause alpha already knows that he got em'. Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta.


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Here are two different descriptions that are out there about what an alpha is:

1. A man who was born with a higher level of testosterone (something he already got while being in his mother's womb). Such men are naturally more dominant, have certain physical traits that are different from non-alpha males (like for example, the fourth finger is longer than the index finger and so on. Also it has been investigated that alpha males are more prone to having ADD). Also, those alphas have the urge to mate with more women (and usually prefer to have multiple partners).

HOWEVER,

2. in my option being/becoming true alpha has to do more with your "masculine energy" in general. By this I mean, that when you are free of shame, guilt and other debilitating emotional patterns (which as some one already noticed in this thread come from out family, our upbringing and the experiences we have in our lives), we freely express our masculine energy, for example by freely expressing your desire for women, being open about your sexuality, openly expressing your thoughts without being afraid of other people's opinions and so on.
And, yes these are qualities that can (and should) be developed during our personal development.

Also, the stuff that people wrote above :).

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Telling yourself you are something, as opposed to being it .... are two different things.

To be something you need evidence, proof ... that you are that thing.

If I say that I'm adventurous, that means I have adventures in my history that I've experienced.

If I say I'm a lover not a fighter, that means I have lovers in my history which show that.

If I say I'm an Alpha male ..... then that means I have gotten to a place in my life where I have little to nothing to prove to anyone. I am at "the top" of my own pyramid, whatever that pyramid is or was. If that involves sexual conquests, or a career goal, or some dream I had which realized ... whatever ... it means I "arrived" to a top place in my life. That will look different for each guy.

The bottom line, is that you have PROVED it with your life, actions, etc. It has nothing to do with accepting anything, or telling yourself over and over something ... or mastering a walk or a look or an attitude. You will naturally give off a persona, when you have walked through those paces and accomplished them, because they change you and become you and you become them.

Women ... and men .... pick up on this. It's called "confidence". The fake stuff can't be hidden. Neither can the real :)

If you want women to pick up on you being confident, then you had better be confident about something. If you are only confident about your ability to throw a football to your buddy, or play a video game ... then THAT is the confidence you offer. If you are confident you could take down any guy in the room, then that is what you offer .... that brute confidence about your physique.

For me personally ..... I achieved pretty much everything I had ever wanted to achieve in life by the time I was 21 years old. Really. I'm now 35. Every moment since then, I have had this confidence about me that everyone picks up on in person most of the time. I've been married twice, I have great kids .... I'm average looking. Sometimes a bit on the heavy side. I am graying already. But I still date 22 year olds and sometimes younger. Hot ones. Simple as that. I'm no porn star or anything .... and other guys sort of watch me in amazement.

The key, is that once I got my own "proving" out of the way .... I was able to take part in other people's without being intimidated, or threatened .... and I had a lot to offer because I've done A LOT in my life. So it's a win-win for everyone. I offer a lot, but I take a real interest in others because I want to help them accomplish what they want in life as well.

Chicks love it when you actually are interested in their lives, but also have REAL things to offer. That confidence that you can jump off a bridge and everything is going to be okay at the end because they are doing it with me :)

This is a very easy, and simple concept to get .... but ...... it's something you get once you sort of finish "proving" things to yourself. It's not about accepting yourself as you are or whatever, that's psychobabble ... it's about BECOMING the thing you want to accept about yourself. Making it real. Just like the Michael Jordan analogy used above.


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I think you forgot the most important part, real alpha's never tried becoming alpha - they just are.


Excellent! So i got hired at this firm and i got into a fight with the top guy, so this was before discovering the community, and the owner say "is because the 2 of you are the alpha males of the group", then some client with his girl came and did not do biz, and the boss says is because you are alpha, and he feels intimidated with his girl there, and i had no idea what he was saying, then i discover the community all this alpha bs, and you can see in some post, how the newbies and other more experience puas faking to be alpha they look RIDICULOUS, it is embarrassing because is not natural, they are trying too hard, one of the best examples is mystery himself he is trying too hard to be alpha when he is not..

Any ways some of what i think is alpha:

Leader
not an ass kisser
not a yes man
confident
aggressive
did i say a leader
a leader
a leader
a leader

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