Met this HB9.5 through a friend.
I added her on FB, with the excuse of needing her help to buy a present for a common friend. This got us talking, she asked me to come out with her and our common friend the next week. I sort of played really busy till the last minute, which then I said I’d be there. It went pretty quiet that night, she was mostly just talked with our common friend and I felt like a 3rd wheel.

After that been talking to her on and off just messaging... nothing serious...
Last week I just took her out alone, told her I want to go somewhere and if she’s up for it... she said ok...

I used some negging, acted quite comfortable with myself for the most. Then she got onto the topic of how people try to pick her up so often… this is where I started to explain to her certain teachings of the PUA and what the guy was trying and why he failed, and said to her hypothetically if I was to hit on you in this way you would notice... her not knowing I’d already applied some of the game on her.
I've often brought up the subject of the game… seems to get girls interest quick pronto… anyway I tried some kino, got a bit in, but not to much to push it yet. As she was leaving she said we should do this again next week, I was just like ahh no,,, depends I might be busy…
Anyway after meeting up with her, we texted a lot the whole weekend ... just being myself no game...i did a lot of push-pull, but in the end showed her I was a nice guy…she thought I was very sweet...

So my question is this.... this girls is to used to getting hit on so much, so why does being different to the rest(being myself) mean she's paying attention to me.. I don’t know whether she is being just nice or whether I should push for more... this girl is proper gf material, so I don’t wanna just f-close.
Do not know how to proceed from here. :S Any tips/comments or guidance would be appreciated .

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Hey man. what you have done so far with this chick is really good. ive also done the same thing as you, kinda teach pua to girls on dates, shows them that you are very knowledgeable and you know what you are doing. but i wouldnt show her that you know too much or else she might misconstrued you to be a player.

what you are doing with this girl is gaming her. but just because you are using pua techniques like push/pull doesnt mean that you are not being yourself, because all of the words came from you. also what is great is that you know how the other guys attempted to hit on your girl and have failed, so you have adjusted your game so that you treat your girl differently from the other guys, and therefore you stand out from the rest of them. hitting on a girl is not a bad thing. it's basically a short hand term for saying "I'm gonna sweep this girl off her feet". girls always know when a guy is hitting on them, but what they want is a guy that does it the right way for them. the same approach doesnt work on every girl. one has to assess the situation, analyze their target and decide the right approach to take.

another important thing which she sees in you compared to other guys is that you are reserved and dont move into seductive mode too quickly. girls love it when a guy has self restraint and patience. make the girls want the sex more than you do. i have had girls make the move on me in the past because i know the exact moment when the girls want it, so i hold myself back a small bit and make her beg for that kiss.

with every approach there is a structure when gaming a girl:

Pregame
Opener
Transition
Attraction (Push/Pull, qualification, challenging, negging etc)
Deep rapport
number close
kiss close
f close

You have to know which components you know you have with this girl. so i think that you def have the attraction and the comfort. all you need to do now is to become more seductive, but look out for the IOIs to dictate when to make the move.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude

Keep the sexual tension up. You could be friend zoned so easily at this stage!

how? the only sexual tension i felt was when i met her the first time, we were at the counter together and we accidentally got quite close, and being a tall guy i was sorta over towering her and yeh...

right now i have stopped texting her... you guys think this a good idea or not?
Since ive built rapport already, but obviously dont want to come across as clingy or over burdening...?

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There was sexual tension when u were close. There's your answer. Get close, kino escalate. If your a bit nervous to suddenly get close and kino her, use triangular gazing to up the sexual tension. Triangular gazing is when you shift your gaze from her eyes to her lips every so often for a second or two. Its a great technique.

Hmm i will try that next time... i guess you gotta make it obvious your looking at her lips... the only escalation i got last time was when i met her a put my arm on her shoulder(she was sitting down) and i just rocked up and said high... later while walking she said something stupid, and i did something similar, i felt her retort a bit but then she giggled so i was confused wheter she was just ticklish or it was that she felt uncomfortable...
but yeh definitely i need to get closer again... need to think of a place where i could achieve that easier, than sitting in a cafe across the table from each other? any idea's on that?

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I didn't read all the posts but
1)you're a bit of a creeper to be randomly adding your friends hot friends but do bear in mind some of your friends will not appreciate that. It's a bit weird for starters...

2)you seem to be in a good place, just don't fuck it up by talking to her too much and not making a move. I've done this many a time and it sucks really bad when you're genuinly interested in the person if you get friend zoned. I wouldn't really say you were being yourself, you were being a total pick up artist I joke. Kind of. you played a few games which is alright I'm sure for most of the part you were just being you, the games kind of become you anyway.

3)good luck!

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lol... not so much creeper... it was a friend of my really goood friend... and anyway she had been liking and commenting on my posts on my friends page for a bit... my friend was blown awy, she was like i wouldnt imagine you 2 bieng friends, but it was a good for a cause "her present" ...
lol, naturally a part of me plays games with girls anyway, i think its just how ive become used too like you said... its always ... 1 round of tease (be an asshole) and then give an honest answer ..
Thank you matey....

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OK, I'll give it to you straight:

What you need to do is ASSUME she is into you (she is) and go for it. Invite her over to your place for drinks, or, someplace nearby and, as discussed, ramp up the sexual tension/sexual rapport.

At this point it really doesn't matter whether she's into you or not. If she is, the only way to keep her interested is to make a move, and if she isn't, you never had a shot anyways and now you'll know.

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Don't view her as GF material - even though she obviously is. If she gets a hint of this, you're screwed.

The fact that you have options and you don't go out of the way to compliment, shower her with adoration, etc. makes her curious. Why is this guy not behaving like the others? Cultivating an heir of mystery is one of your most powerful assets.

Also - ambition. Show her that you've got big dreams. Your dreams are bigger than her. You may not have shown this directly, but you've demonstrated that you've got knowledge that other guys don't (i.e. the PUA talk). This is sexy and unique.

Not making yourself readily available is awesome. Even if you are reading them immediately, wait a good 5-15 minutes before texting back. You're busy - fuck her. She can wait. If she senses she's not the highest value person in the interaction for once, she'll want you really really bad.

The trick here though - is demonstrating that you're not interested in being just friends. Take the conversation sexual. Even if you don't get action that night, that's not the goal. The goal is to define the relationship. Not friends. Not in the slightest.

You may fall into the friend zone sexual tension, kino, forget about girlfriend, always work backwards, sex then afterwords see what happens if she is up to relationship...

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dude, you're doing great. if you ever read style's book he actually weaned off from gaming and switched it to natural game and honestly used the same tactics. i say the point is to go against the grain, so if she says all these guys are doing one thing, but unique and do the other. assuming she gets hit on a lot i would make her come to you so it doesn' tlook like you're like everyone else.

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(Indifference) is why she pays attention to you, the phrase curiosity killed the cat springs to mind. I remember being in a similar situation, totally gorgeous looking girl with her gorgeous looking friend. My friends who I was with at the time totally swarming around her like flies on s**t. Me, I sit there chilling out while they do all the hard work with their witty bante,r cocky funny & try hard attitude.

Meanwhile I give the occasional eyecontact from a distance with a simple smirk. I'm sure the whole time we was there I said no more than 3 words to her. 'Hi yes/no & bye'. She leaves, her gorgeous friend tells my friend she wants my number lmao.

You can see the envy in my other friends eyes, stood there thinking WTF just happened we put in all the heavy flirting & get squat. You sit there with your drink & do nothing & she asks for your number?

Obviously I phoned her met a couple of times but it didn't take off. They were my natural days unfortunately after finding out she wanted my number & I wasn't even thinking about having anything with this girl beforehand I totally choded out & was overly nice. Probably compensating for the fact that deep down I knew I totally wanted to ravage her in bed. I realise now I should have let instinct take over ahhh the joys of being young & stupid, oh well. You live & learn.


I never knew how it happened until I started reading in to the game but after reading a bit of material I realised that is was indifference coupled with looks that caused her attraction to me. Afterall she had nothing else to go off, we barely spoke.

It's like another poster said in here with the greatest advice for this situation, whatever you do don't let on that you see her as GF material. You have been elevated on a pedestal of indifference in her eyes. Kick the stool away & you lose the game. In this situation the male is the dominant force, when she comes to you out of interest guess who's doing the chasing. You are her prize, make her work for you nobody ever got a gold medal by running an easy race. If you make it easy for her she will see you as silver or bronze.

Enjoy