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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:48 am 
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I am in college, so within my social circle, there are always new girls popping in and out. I always do a good job of attracting them and getting them to like me, the only problem is that my best friend does a better job. When they want to all hang out again, he is the one they call and he is the one who ends up hooking up with most of them, and certainly the hotter ones.

He also happens to be my best friend, so I don't wanna do any AMOGing and certainly don't want to kill our friendship. I know I need to be more alpha but I don't want to take away any of his value while doing it.

How can I get more attraction than him when he is just straight up naturally better at flirting?

btw, he is not any better looking or anything and I would say that I have more going for me outside of straight personality (smarter, more potential for success, more athletic, etc).


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:40 pm 
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I have the exact same problem!! Im still trying to figure out how to out alpha him so the tables will turn, however, it is very difficult considering the fact that hes the best natural i've ever seen. He is also a good looking dude which makes things more difficult, although I think a girl would rank me the same number as he is. Anyways when were both out drinking at what not at our college parties I generally let him pick his girl before I do. I think we have to take charge and begin picking our girls first. In addition, don't ask you friend for permission, ideas, etc. because this shows signs that you are a beta. Hopefully we can help each other along the way.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:00 pm 
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yo man, i got/had same problem. outside of college, im usually the guy out of the social circle who hooks up with the girls, but my best mate is better in the "long term game" so to speak, so has most attraction from other girls. maybe its just his personality

or so I used to think

Now, I think its just something todo with ourselves. over past week or so i been working on my inner game, and i think thats the answer. get rid of your beliefs that other guys are trying or are out-alphaing you, just be as confident and relaxed as possible, and you will become the new alpha. The key is not to focus on the roles and just on you.

sounds a little confusing I know, point is, the more your going "oh no hes more alpha than me" the more your becoming reactive to him and the situation, and so the more alpha your making him. remember the only thing that makes an "alpha" an "alpha" is the way people respond to him

hope it helps a little

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:37 pm 
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Thanks guys, great advice.
And Da, he's not out there trying to steal my girls or even going out of his way to game them, he's just naturally attractive. That doesn't mean we have an unhealthy friendship.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:33 am 
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mother f**ker!!! He did it again!!! So we had a party and this new girl that we have never met came over. He was his sisters friend and she was the only girl there at the time. I said ok this is the time to out alpha my friend. I was a little drunk and was ignoring her for a while to show disinterest, however, i think i took it too far and let my friend spit too much game. He ended up F-closing her and i felt like a douche. As the night went by a few girl came over and i flirted with them, however, they had to leave and i coudlnt pay much attention to them later in the night due to BP. I feel like my game has been going to shit these last couple of weeeks and I am becoming less confident. I need an something to jumpstart my alpha status and i just dont know how.... I was on a streak 3 weeks ago by getting on 4 girls in one week... IDK what too doo college game is brutalll


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:35 am 
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and Da i was just recommening to try and be the leader of the group and to not have beta qualities in front of girls, such as asking your "alpha friend" for advice, ideas, etc.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Hey man,

I'm in college as well and it defiantly is a different beast. But your mindset is defiantly screwing up your chances with a lot of the cute girls you meet. I know because I too was in your same position.

College is the one time were you supposed to be having a crap load of fun without any "real" responsibility, not thinking who is the most alpha in any given situation. I'm guessing your friend isn't always thinking " hey I'm I being alpha here". He is living i nth moment and having fun. Plus he defiantly has a strong belief system when it comes to women.

Like you said, your more attractive, more athletic and have a better chance to be successful. So why is he always making moves? It's obviously is something else. It's the way he believes in himself and views himself.

Let me ask you this have you been doing a lot of inner game work or just been going out and having fun?


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I haven't done any inner game work. Why what do you suggest?


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Hey man,

Defiantly man. College game is a lot more natural - you can't go running around snipping openers, negs etc. It all comes down to how you feel about yourself and how strong your belief system regarding women is.

Guys like Cory Skyy who teach natural game are your best bet to internalize an confident personality. This will always trump lines and routines in college.

Check his website out at his domain page coryskyy

Peace bro,

Dave


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