I'm keen to learn Pick-Up the way Adam Lyons did. But how?



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:33 pm 
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I was a bit sceptical about Pick-up until I became aware of Adam Lyons. When I watched his video tutorials on the Attraction Explained website I became aware of a new method of pick-up. Watch the videos if you want to see what I mean.

I then realised that after becoming aware of the game, Adam learnt the psychology of human interaction to gain an understanding of what makes humans attracted to one another, which in turn he used for pick-up.

What I would like to know is if there is anyone else who has done it this way and secondly what sort of research did Adam do in order to build up his understanding of human interaction, which lead him to pick up. I would like to get into pick-up this way and become a natural. All this canned-material and negging is tempting but isn’t really me…

Also Adam Lyons book ‘Dairy of a Pick-Up Artist’, any good?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:59 am 
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Hey dude. definitely not into the scripted material either. one becomes too dependent on them and does not allow them to grow. the greatest natural pua i know is richard la ruina aka gambler, he teaches you how to become the ultimate natural, he wrote the book called "The natural art of seduction". from learning from great puas such as gambler, neil strasus and kezia (female pua teacher) here are some pointers i learnt from them which will be a great benefit to you:

women like men who are observant and situational. notice things about ur target, what she is wear (clothes, jewelry etc). so if u notice something about her (do not comment on how beautiful she is) tell her about it e.g. u notice her bracelet, when talking to her, take hold of her wrist gently and say "wow this is an interesting bracelet, whats the story behind it?", there's always a background story behind women\s accessories. be situational about the environment you are in, whats happening, what do you see, make a statement about it or ask her opinion on it. being situational is much better than scripted material.

here are some of my other posts about building attraction and rapport with a girl.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:59 am 
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Yes I have done it this way, which is why I was very excited when I found out about Adam Lyons and took his bootcamp. Definitely the stuff he and his top coach teach is more natural and socially acceptable than 99% of PUA advice out there.

I would say Adam Lyons and I have similar approach to this, although I don't do it full time. I've come at the problem in a completely different way but we seem to have realized similar things.

As for learning game, my advice would be this: don't think of it as gaming, but PUT YOURSELF IN THE GAME, and get experience. It's just like learning a language. First you are awkward at it, but you surround yourself with native speakers (cool guys, great girls) and provide value (hook them up with what they want) and you will naturally learn the right moves and become more smooth.

Best thing you can do instead of paying thousands of $$$ for bootcamps is go out and meet cool people and hook them up with what they want. At the same time get invited to events. A shortcut is getting in with a bunch of promoters -- you don't need to provide them with anything, except show up with girls. Any girls, they dont have to be your girlfriend. You and a buddy invite your female coworker and HER friend to have a good time in the evening. Make friends with the bouncers and promoter. While in the club meet some cool people and exchange numbers. Repeat.

I should say that this is not really "pick up" but more like social networking.
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I was a bit sceptical about Pick-up until I became aware of Adam Lyons. When I watched his video tutorials on the Attraction Explained website I became aware of a new method of pick-up. Watch the videos if you want to see what I mean.

I then realised that after becoming aware of the game, Adam learnt the psychology of human interaction to gain an understanding of what makes humans attracted to one another, which in turn he used for pick-up.

What I would like to know is if there is anyone else who has done it this way and secondly what sort of research did Adam do in order to build up his understanding of human interaction, which lead him to pick up. I would like to get into pick-up this way and become a natural. All this canned-material and negging is tempting but isn’t really me…

Also Adam Lyons book ‘Dairy of a Pick-Up Artist’, any good?


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