Read a lot on here about guys opening, using C&F, negs, making her laugh, etc. Then they get shot down, girl flakes, rejection or get stuck in the LJBF zone. Look, these things only get you so far, they’re openers, designed to create some attraction and to be used sparingly. If all you’re doing is that, you need more. You need substance, ( here’s a good definition as it pertains to this: the essential part of a thing; essence.) If your substance is just to make her laugh, then congratulations, you just became her Jester, here just for her entertainment! What is your essence, what makes you interesting? (think The most interesting man in the Dos Equis commercial) Develop some substance to you such as:



Gain some knowledge on relevant issues. Politics is good, have an opinion based on facts, (careful, you don’t want to argue about it, but just show some knowledge). Wine is another one, I’m not saying be a wine snob, but learn how to pronounce them correctly and what makes them different. (Most women love wine, and will talk about them, also a good opener,



You: “I see your drinking ___, have you tried ___?”

Her: Yes I have, did you like it?

You: yeah it was ok, and I really like ____ too. How about you?



Fitness...ok so you go to the gym, what else do you do that could include her? Hiking is good, there are good hiking trails usually close by, learn them and talk about them. Swimming is also good.



Cooking. If there is one thing that will get a woman in your house faster than saying you’ll cook her a meal, I don’t know what it is. Learn a few dishes. Throw it out there in a conversation.



You: “When I cook ___ I like to ____.

Her: you cook? No way!

You: Yep and my specialty is ____, better than your mom’s!

Her: I don’t believe it...



These are just a few examples, I’m sure there are more out there. What you’re trying to accomplish is for her to see herself talking and doing things with you. Bottom line, get some substance and you’re on your way to getting more tail than a bicycle seat!...JMO

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These are designed to get girls interested in you. When someone decides to be a pickup artist, he already can have substance-he just does not have what it takes to pull the trigger with the ladies.

Apply these game tips to your life to make you seem more attractive and then your substance will come into play naturally. Dont memorize other peoples substance... Its not like everybody is a blank canvas programmed to neg and open and C&F. They have real things too, they just need to be able to crack the code before those things can be used.

If you want more substance however, do more interesting things! And yes, cooking is always a bonus but dont be pretentious about wine

Mach: I believe that's what he said "designed to get girls interested" He said "designed to create some attraction" Difference?
I don't beleieve he was stating to memorize his substance, he was just giving examples of substance. It was even stated in the post these are examples.

Prententious, whats pretentious about being knowledgeable? Ok, you don't like wine, learn the different beers, or bourbons, etc (by the way isn't saying "Apply these game tips to your life to make you seem more attractive" prententious?) Personally I'm going to learn the wine tip, it can be used in so many situations...

But what hes referring to is what makes up someones personality, I understand that this is an example but learning more about wine to impress girls is stupid. substance should be you, if someone isn't interested in wine or beers it makes no sense to study them and everybody has their own lives-thats where substance is taken from. For example, i am a studying artist and teach muay thai kickboxing. there are two great examples of things to talk about. And sure, there are many people that wont care about art or martial arts, but its the same with wine.

All im saying is the game we study is to get girls, you dont have to go out of your way to be a different person. Be happy with what you enjoy. If you dont have any hobbies or interests than yes, pick some up, study something! maybe my point is not clearly coming across. dont be robots

Holy Ravioli SPAM, I actually like this post. Yeah, everybody focuses on talking to girls about stuff that makes her laugh and stupid topics that are "safe". But this guy tells us that we are actually allowed to talk about stuff that we are interested in. I like it! Goes well in line with Chiefs outer game as well!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

You didn't answer my questions...

I usually don't respond to my own posts, but in this case I will.
# 1 substance is NOT personality, don't post what you think I'm refering to.
# 2 Learning about wine was an EXAMPLE, it was not a routine, opener, etc. If it was that's where I would have posted it
# 3 learning more about wine to impress girls is stupid. Really? substance is not about impressing, it's about ESCALATING ATTRACTION. So in your opinion the 5 lies, cube and every other technique is stupid? Wine was an EXAMPLE that was fitted for me, I spend time in airports, high end bars, social gatherings etc. where most women (those things we're after) have some sophistacation and drink WINE. Maybe someone hangs in sports bars, hence they should know sports...get my point?
# 4 I never said memorize this or be a robot, I said get some substance, be interesting, again it was examples.

Ezo got it.

And yes, I would like to hear your response to Gator's question

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