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rystar
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:55 pm 
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I'm not sure if I'm in the right section of the forum to put this, but basically after initially losing belief of the PUA techniques I feel I made a mistake, so I've come back to work on my game again and today was the first time I met someone and used the techniques from mystery, some read on here and some I've seen on the video at the bottom of the site from 'Gambler'.

Anyway, I've been texting this girl a while, and she has a boyfriend currently. But when she talks about him she always says he moans at her etc. But her mentioning him can't be good either way can it? I'm not sure as I'm not fully there yet.

Anyway, we met today and she was quite talkative and I sometimes left it silent as I watched some video's today and one said something like if she initiates conversation it's a good thing, which she did.

I tried my best to remember the game. I took her for a short walk, I tried Gambler's technique on his video about brushing my hand against hers but I kept missing because she had a big handbag. Maybe I should of tried harder. :lol: But I managed the other technique gambler had on his video in which he mentioned saying 'have you been to *******' then say 'we should go there' I got a couple, saying we should go to some seaside place and another was do kareoke together.

Anyway, we drove to a cafe in another part of the town and she said I had poor taste in music on my iPod. I asked her for her hand and shown her a line and said 'that line there says you have poor taste in music' she replied 'that one there shows I might not have' (or something like that).

We shared some food and I tried the (2+1, 3+2 - carrot) technique and it worked, she loved it and wondered how I did it. The only mistake I made is I didn't take her hands beforehand and I totally forgot until afterwards, but she played with her hair quite a lot after that.

We moved into some candle and sweet shop that she liked and we had some chocolates that she picked. Incidentally she picked one with a love heart and then mentioned later 'aww you got me a love heart one'. I wasn't sure whether to make anything of this. We went back to the car, I placed my hand on her back momentarily to try and build up some kino which was lacking unfortunately.

Anyway, I just need your thoughts, advice if you had any. I thought I did ok. Before she left she said we will definitely meet again and I said maybe after her holidays and she said maybe before. I've only just got home and she said 'was nice seeing you earlier. he he x x x'

Thanks, any thoughts/advice would be welcome as it's all fairly new to me so try not to be too harsh :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:13 pm 
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you're in the door, dude. She OBVIOUSLY 'digs' you, she has a bf and from what you told me sounds like ya'll had a date so her bf isnt doing something right....'steaaady! steaaaady!' is what you gotta keep in mind. Try tapping into her emotional side...be 'understanding' to whatever she says....make her have a really good time...and then go MIA for a few days...it'll keep her coming back for more....trust me!
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Thanks! I am trying real hard. I have the worst habbit of being too forward so I'm just trying to play it cool.

She's text me like half an hour after I left her and I only just got back home, should I leave the text until later on? I think it would be a good idea?

Yeh, she said a few things about her boyfriend like how he moaned at her when she cooked him dinner and she put some sauce on he didn't like and he had a right go at her. I tried to gently tap into knocking him, but not making it too obvious by saying 'why would he do that' and such, but I didn't want to make it real obvious plus I tried to keep him out of conversation as much as possible unless it was in a negative way.

It's just hard trying to remember the game. I suppose it comes naturally when I've done it a few times. Thanks for the support.
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i've been in the situtation and i fail...but now i know everything i did wrong. believe me she wouldve texted you RIGHT after you left, but she didnt because she didnt want to be THAT girl...the clingy one. so take about 15min to reply to the text...and when u do answer...keep it short something like 'I really enjoyed time with you too. we should do it again soon.' whatever she replies...dont reply back....leave it like that. when she talks negative about her bf...keep it simple by saying 'what a douche' ifyou try to talk bad about him everytime she says something she'll catch on to ur game.

ps- next time she says he doesnt appreciate her cooking ask her to cook for you!
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Thanks, anyone else got any more advice please? She text me again last night saying 'night hun x x' which I thought was pretty good. I'm thinking about leaving it today and probably texting tomorrow?
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Mate, your in. Best advice I can give you is forget "the Game" and all that crap and just go with the flow. Trust your instincts, your impulses and be yourself. After all, wouldn't you rather the girl be attracted to you and not some random bloke's "method"?
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I guess, the game I'm learning is not all method work and canned stuff. I'll blend it together with me.

I mean, I'm absolutely awful at building kino. I find it awkward the first couple of times so using stuff that I've learnt on here is brilliant, plus using my stories to give me DHV.

I hope it goes well, seeing her again on Friday.
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I guess, the game I'm learning is not all method work and canned stuff. I'll blend it together with me.

I mean, I'm absolutely awful at building kino. I find it awkward the first couple of times so using stuff that I've learnt on here is brilliant, plus using my stories to give me DHV.

I hope it goes well, seeing her again on Friday.
You're thinking about kino too much. Let it escalate and make it natural. Kino can be anything from a tap on the shoulder to groping her while your making out. Don't think, just touch. Avoid spots that will make her think your a pervert until you've escalated to the point where you CAN touch that spot (i.e. ass, tits, vag, etc.). Remember girls don't KNOW about kino, it's subconscious for them.

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This give-her-the-ultimatum-vp373861.html?highlight=#373861 is about the same girl. I know I'm probably getting a little hung up on one girl (although going on my other posts I have been meeting others and basically practising). However, I didn't take the advice phoenix give me to back off a little bit.

This is because the book 'make her chase you' arrived and I've nearly read the whole thing in less than a day (I plan to read it again after in case I forgot any of the stuff). Anyway, I've used some of the tips in that book and one was to talk to a girl about another girl and ask sexual questions or something similar. I did it to one girl and after her advice and I said thanks she text me about half an hour later asking if I wanted to meet up. I thought it was brilliant.

So, today I spoke to her online and used some of the ideas used in the book (including the 'date' idea Tynan has given). This is how it went.

[Start edited as it's normal stuff]

me: we hanging out tomorrow if we're both free?
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12:59
i'm busy all day hun, ive got driving lesson in morning, then meeting ******(her girlfriend) to sort guest list out for birthday then im going ********(shopping centre)

13:01Me
o thats cool, my friends wanted to do something for my birthday tomorrow anyway so I can do that now :)

13:01
okies :D

13:03Me
we can sort something for when we're both free soon. I got a good idea ;)

13:03
heheh ooo whats that

13:03Me
we'll get married ;)

13:04
hahahah
i better get looking for dresses then lol

13:04Me
it will be fun

13:05
haha

13:05Me
are you free tuesday earlier in the day?

13:06
i dnooo yet hun
might be

13:07Me
im a little busy at around 3 so before then. I'm thinking town-food-married ;)

13:07
haha we may have to postpone the wedding! Ill treat cyprus as my hen holiday! lol

13:08Me
yeh! My birthday weekend my stag do. we'll just look for ring on Tuesday :P

13:09
hahahaha okay well i may be busy so we'll seee

13:09Me
yeh ok np x

13:10
:)

13:12Me
when do you get back?

13:12
8th aug

13:12Me
ahh thats ok.
you have chance to catch up with my tan ;)

13:13
hahaha!
ill go black

13:14Me
lol, yeh but your tan lines will tell a different story ;)

13:15
hahaha

13:15Me
:P

13:15
:)

13:20Me
I'm thinking possibly two kids, not until we're about 30 though! Then a nice place tooked away from the city but not too far away and possibly some sort of pet, like a little dog
haha

13:20
i wanna be about 26.... and i want a border collie and a little yorkie

:)

and i want a massive kitchen where i can cook all day long, cakes and biscuits and i want a really nice bathroom and a big garden :D

13:21Me
why? do you want to cook for me?

13:22
i love cooking

13:22Me
you can teach me

13:22
haha okay :)

13:23Me
im alright, but it will be fun.
We need a big garden for the dogs (Y)
possible decking for b-b-q's in the summer, over looking miles of fields were, in the background, the sun and red sky fades at night whilist under our watchful eye

haha

13:25
haha sounds wonderful!! :D and we need to live near other children so the kids have friends, and we need to live near a friendly pub

13:29Me
yep :) our room is overviewing the backdrop, and has a tiny balcony and a long window running across so we can open the curtain in the morning and watch the sun rise to breakfast in bed

13:29
haha you can make the breakfast in bed!!! ill have a strawberry smoothie and pancakes :D

13:33Me
i can do that in exchange for kisses and cuddles :P

13:35
haha :)

13:35Me
but you need to get that married first haha

13:35
haha

13:37Me
:)

13:38
:)

13:39Me
let me know how the weather is on you hen do btw :P

13:39
haha oh i will do!! it'll be 34 degrees every day WOO

13:40Me
lol
as long as my pumpkin drop doesn't get burnt ;)

13:42
hahaha i never get burnt ryan lol

13:43Me
if you did then i'd have to rub your aftersun in for you

13:44
hahaha

13:44Me
anyway, i must go
xxx

13:45
talk later :D
xxxxxxxxxxx
Looking at that now, to me looks like I'm initiating the conversation quite a bit and I get a lot of 'haha'. I'm not sure whether that's nervousness as I haven't been as imtimate before, her having a boyfriend and not wanting to say the wrong thing, her not actually being interested or me just reading too much into it.

I know a few before said she was, I'm still to be convinced. I just wondered what anyone can read into that?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:09 pm 
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Thanks for the help guys! :roll:
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Hey Rystar,
few observations;
1) don't fixate on this one girl, it'll knacker your chances of getting with her, seriously. I'm not saying you shouldn't pursue her, but try pursueing other girls too, whether thats by sarging or within your social circle.
2) don't take her negative comments about her boyfriend as a green light that she is after someone else, women will do this, often with their friends- also don't say anything negative about him, unless you parrot what she has already said. Instead try telling her why you would be a bad boyfriend, with the right frame you can dhv yourself and dlv him, e.g "I would make a terrible boyfriend, I have so much going on in my life SPAM, I could probably only take you out a couple times a week, plus I like spending time with my friends too, so probably best you stick with this other guy, i'm guessing he takes you out lots, right?" he doesn't. obviously it needs to be relevant to the two of you, and the situation you're in plus be congruent.
3)check out david wygants web page he has more info about post initial pickup
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:18 pm 
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It might seem like I'm fixating, but I've met other girls since then and I'm working on another 3 at the moment too. It's all practice for me.

This one girl is a bit different though. I feel a certain connection between us I haven't with the others. But I'm trying to take it cool and such things.

I really can't see her leaving him at the moment, it's a pain in the arse. But It's also a challenge, and I'm not the type of person to back from something a bit challenging.

Thanks for the advice anyway, I'll give it a shot.

btw, I've just gone on that website and gave up instantly. That format is awful!
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