I'm posting a field report here because if I do it in the field report section, all I get is "try nlp, try an opinion opener" and all that other BS. I'm more natural gamer, so I go for situational openers most of the time.

Most of my game is day game, though I am new and don't have lots of approaches down. I've been doing this off and on for a year, though I don't go out and sarge and rarely approach for one reason or another. Part of it is AA, the other part is not knowing what to say, but I'm working on that. Either way, 2 to critique -


Last night at a supermarket, I passed by a girl who was holding up a "rice crust" pizza in the health section. She was holding it up to the point where I could see it (though she was already a planned target) so I stopped and was like, wait, rice crust? that's unAmerican! and joked with her. We went through the basics for about 10 min but I never really got a hook point. We talked about health foods, her being a trainer, me and this gym I love going to, cheat foods, etc etc. She's a health nut, personal trainer (I really don't see how this is possible, but eh...), and I knew it wasn't going to end well because she loves healthy food, doesn't eat red meats nor cheat at all (she barely likes chocolate, and only the healthy chocolate).

So after about the 10 min mark I see she's looking to the side so I make my exit. I get her name, lightly shake her hand, turn to walk away then say "hey what's your email, I'll email you sometime to keep in touch" (thinking I could do the DeAngelo email/number close). I didn't have a hook point and although I made her laugh and teased her a bit, I was still confident and saying it like old friends would yet I wasn't getting good vibes. She goes "I'm not really interested in joining your gym" and I look kind of perplexed and go "no, it's to keep in touch, nothing professional about a gym. I'm not the gym savior here (raising both hands to mock a preacher)". She goes "um, I don't think we should" or something along those lines, so I say ok cool and walk off.


Today-

I go to the one mall on Thursday every few weeks to kill time between work and practice so I don't make a long commute. While I'm there, I talk to a couple kiosk people I know well and walk the store one loop while talking to a few of the workers. So I walk by a kiosk, see a 9 dark-haired beauty that I talked to for about 20 secs last month. I stop and do my usual routine "Man you're having so much fun, you can barely contain yourself huh?" Crappy routine but after a bit I ease into her working there part-time, going to school full-time for French. I relate that to my history degree of "you picked the major because you loved it, didn't you? Just like me...". As I'm talking, I remember back to Slywalker's posts I had gone through last night about letting the woman talk her way to comfort with you.

Once I find out she's passionate about french, I talk to her about it, asking her lots of questions and offering her insight about what she can do with it. Then we talk about her texting habits, I try to go along and agree with what she's saying to build comfort like "oh yea I do that too", while at the same time I'm being true and not just going along with it just to agree with her.

At the beginning, I was leaning on my elbows onto the kiosk, leaning in to show interest, then I'd sit back, place both hands far apart on the kiosk to take up space. Then throughout the convo I'd turn my body to the side, step back a few feet, rock away, turn away as if I'm walking away then come back to her.

So we talk for about 10, I neg her sometimes, joke with her about her being Macgyver and fixing watches and all she needs is "bubble gum and a paperclip" to put them back together. The whole time she's chatty and I let her do most of the talking. Customer comes up, I leave after 10 secs, go for a walk and talk on the phone. I come back around, pass by her, still with the customer, don't look at her at all then come back 10 min later when she's not with a customer but has her back to me and is fixing a watch. This time she's concentrating on the watch and not really into the convo. After a few min I'm about to eject and a customer comes in. So I say "hey I'll have to grab your number next time and we can text" to which she doesn't say much, then I leave.


I'm having a hard time getting a hook point and maintaining eye contact.

If I notice that the woman is genuinely talkative, joking a bit and interested in the convo, I stick with it for 5-10 min and try to build more comfort. I've had a few 2-3 min number closes and find that they flake because the comfort isn't there, so I try to stay with the convo for 5-10 min to build comfort, but I'm finding 5+ min is too long and I'm trying to focus on how to build comfort and attraction.

Eye contact is a problem mostly because of my ADHD and whenever people walk by, I look or I turn away for a few secs as I'm talking and then turn back. I need to have better eye contact, though not laser-beam stalker type eye contact.

I grade myself 6/10- I was confident, sucked at building the hook point, decent at being humorous.


Ideas? Be brutally honest with me. Keep in mind I'm cocky/funny, natural, no routines, situational.

I use direct game, too. It sounds like you do a good job keeping the conversation going. It's good that you're at a point where you genuinely seem interested in women, that's healthy. Your weak point is probably building attraction. Being direct will help you with that. Ask these girls early on if they are single. If they say no, you don't even have to waste that next 8 minutes or whatever. Asking this question will put make your intentions totally obvious; it's okay to let a girl know you like her. The reason girls aren't returning your calls probably isn't because they think you're a creeper. You probably have a good amount of comfort, the problem is you're not being memorable enough. A few chuckles isn't enough. You have to make an inside joke and involve her in it. That way when you call, you mention the joke and she instantly recognizes you. Anyway, day game sounds tough, give me drunk girls any day. The reason girls won't give you their number in the first place might be because they don't trust you, or they have a boyfriend. A good way to build trust is to give her your number and name first. If she still seems resistant, just be like, "cool, well I'll get your number when you text me then."

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I agree, solid post.

Another selling point is finding something you guys can do with in her interests later. For instance a girl I know loves pink floyd, "oh man have you seen laser floyd?", "no", "We should do that some time". You create a commitment to hang out, than collect the information so you guys can go later. French, you should as if she knows a good Bistro(French restaurant), find out if you can there with her.

You may need to be funnier as well at different points. If your cracking a joke during the wrong part of the story she could have been unappreciative of it. If you went by 3 times she could have noticed and sensed desperation, women do have far better peripheral vision than men.

She could also sense when you are after nothing but whoopie as they say, when you talk to a girl you may need to not show so much interest as well. If you start showing to much interest early on you lose that scarcity that makes you interesting. You need to do things differently than everyone else, if you dress and talk like everyone else you are not going to stand out.

Without seeing most of what happened we can't tell you anything specific about your particular situation. That said you should be studying body language a lot more. If you don't know when a girl likes you or what has upset her, I believe your body language requires further study. If you can tell a girl not to act better than you because she doesn't like something you do just by seeing her reaction.

You can notice more about her apparel it will give you clues to what she appreciates music, clothes, her taste, her confidence, etc.

My advice is pay more attention to her body language than yours and adjust your body language accordingly. You may need to exit conversations sooner, I do agree with setting a timeline as well, I have to go but etc. You are not doing anything on her time she is taking up yours.

I agree. I need to set time restrictions. I either have a good time with the convo or am doing well building up comfort that I want to push the comfort a little more to try and have a greater chance at a number close success (and less flaking) but that doesn't always work.

I study body language a lot...I try to match their body language, I keep an open, firm posture, sometimes I turn to the side like I'm walking away then come back. If she folds her arms, turns to the side or is looking away a lot (with other signs), I eject from the convo.

I've been trying to get them to talk more and I ask questions more to get them to talk about themselves, then when I find something that they like, I try to talk about that more or get them to talk about that more so the conversation is more positive and she'll have better thoughts (about me hopefully). I have another field report to post which I think I do better at...

I go to the mall and use the entrance at Best Buy to go through the mall. I look around BB for a worker I talked to a few weeks ago, a quiet, shy girl who just turned 18. She did the "I got a new phone and don't know my number, let me take yours" bit then never txt'd me, surprise surprise, but she wasn't there. Instead, another worker, a blonde 8, asked me if I needed help and she seemed cheery and positive. I said no, turned to the side as if to walk away, then talked to her about it being slow, what people buy which parlayed into a convo about her buying a computer for school, talking about her major, etc etc. During the convo, I made sure to turn to the side as if to walk away, then turn back. Overall she was receptive, positive, laughed a few times and seemed to enjoy the casual convo. I saw a customer by her so I said see ya, went on to another kiosk in the mall to see if a girl was there I'd been talking to before...

At the kiosk, she's there with another worker, organizing stuff. She's got the face of a 6-7 but the body/tits/ass of a 9.
I had talked to her a few weeks ago as she was rushing to close up and putting stuff away to go home. She laughed, we chatted for about 10 min as she was closing up and although she was in a hurry she seemed receptive. Got her emailed, emailed her a few days later and mentioned an inside joke we had talked about during our meeting, no reply. Waited a week, emailed again and acted as if the first email didn't exist. No reply. 2 weeks later, here I am.

She was setting up displays, talked to her and her co-worker for about 5 min. Her coworker was getting engaged, so I joked with her about the target, negged her, made fun of her for liking Raphael of the ninja turtles, etc etc. Coworker goes to a customer, target is about to follow but I move to the other side away from them and motion for her to come over with my finger. I give her my cell and say here, gimme your number and I'll text you sometime. She flat out says no. Then she goes, you don't want me blowing up your phone, remember? I say no idea what you're talking about (I really didn't...I assume it was a cocky/funny joke I made about "I'll give you my number, only if you promise to call no more than 10 times a day. 8 is acceptable, even 9, but 10's the limit"). Anyway, I go, so is that a yes or a no? She goes no, I say alright and walk off.

Go to dinner with my parents, they remind me of a tv I'm supposed to be researching for my dad, so I go back to best buy for pricing and run into the same girl from before. Ask if she can help me, she says she doesn't know the area bc she just got back from backpacking in Europe (bingo) and there's 2 workers who can help. I say cool, go to turn, then come back and ask her about Europe. She talks about the countries she went to, her experiences, etc for about 5 min then about the beach and my vacation cottage 2 min walk from the beach. After 5 min, guy worker comes in, I get him involved in the Europe convo and ignore the target. He leaves, she and I talk for a couple more min before I say I gotta go look for tv's. I turn to go away, then pull out my phone and say "give me your cell and I"ll text you to keep in touch, I'd like to see photos of Europe". She gives me the whole "I don't give my number out, plus I'm kind of seeing a kinda bf" bit. I go that's cool, I'm seeing a bf too (she knew this was a joke), then I said I have a gf too (lie) and I'm looking for convo only. She says no I can't, sorry. I say ok cool and walk off.

Go to bj's wholesale for propane tank as they're about to close. Hot 9 redhead cashier tells me where to find it as she's closing down. I get it, go to a few lines over, then she waves me back and says she can help me (she re-opened her register for me I guess). We talk for a few about our bad handwriting, school, etc etc. As she's telling me things, I tell her how I relate to that, and as I tell her things, she tells me how she relates to that. We talk for a few and I want to get her cell but her co-worker is there and I feel awkward. I eject, say see ya later, she goes "see ya later man, take care". I knew I should've number closed...


So few things here.

1) I'm trying to keep the open body language, but I find that when I tell a story or have to think about something, I turn away for a few secs then come back. Need to work on better direct eye contact.

2) I try to ask questions that go from casual fluff stuff to something that they're interested in. Once I found out what they're into, I ask them more questions about that to try and get them to talk about that more and get them in a more positive state hoping that this will lead to a higher success of a number close and less flake.

3) I feel awkward about number closing in front of other groups. Customers, other workers, other people, etc. Just feels weird like the worker will get shit for giving her number to a customer or if I get shot down.

4) Instead of talking for 10 min, I try to talk for 5-10 now. If it's positive I stick around for a few more min, build more comfort to be better at the number close. If not, I eject. Unfortunately I always pick workers or kiosk people who are busy or hurrying for something.

5) Don't know what to say to regulars during day game. I can't just go up to random women and be direct. I usually use situational openers but don't know what to say at certain times.

Hmmmm! So I was thinking about your situation and realized what your problem might be. Are you using KINO???? Touching a woman during your interaction can be the single most important thing you do. It builds tons of comfort and women love to be touched as long as you're not creepy about it. A quick squeeze on her arm after she laughs or you say something funny. Then give her a little push pull. Something like "hey you're pretty cute but it's too bad I don't go for bratty girls like you".

I don't see your interaction but be real with yourself. Are you coming across as spastic or overly hyper maybe? Getting numbers and emails is generally pretty easy. Good luck dude! At least you've got balls and that is half the battle!

Maybe you're beating around the bush too much. All the small talk is fine when you can afford the time, ie she's your co-worker and you see her every day. But if you keep popping into her shop just for small talk you'll eventually come across as a creep or terminally insecure. Finish the job before any interest on her part dies out.

How are you standing when you are talking to them? Your torso should NOT be facing them fully. You should be standing angled to her so it isn't threatening. They don't deserve your full attention, yet. Slowly dedicate your attention to her, let both of your body language match up on it's own you are trying to do so much it is ridiculous. This is suppose to be natural. You need to be aware not just focused on it, you may not seem like your paying attention even if you are looking at them.

Getting hired help's number is one of the most difficult things to get. If she opened a register she could have went to the bathroom, drink, break, open because it is a long line. You are taking everything as if it means their interested in you. You need to list your IOIs you notice so I can add more to what you see or delete some you might mention. I open registers all the time, I am a manager at store, who I grab has nothing to do with who I am attracted to. Always remember the world doesn't evolve around you, though it is nice to believe so.

I have only got the phone number of one person serving me that I didn't know, obviously if I have known girls before I could get their number as they are serving, to easy not a big deal. I have got customers phone numbers several times. Getting hired helps number is not easy. You are just a customer nothing more. You are asking questions about products, you on the other hand are chasing them down after they give you to someone else(who can be more helpful) to have another conversation with her. How does that look? Looks desperate to be honest.

You could go back to a place a couple times. Perhaps you bought the wrong ear phones at best buy or whatever. Once a girl says no to giving you her phone number call it off man, you haven't done anything that makes you attractive/comfortable enough to her. When you try to renumber close her by leaving excuses you are coming across terribly somewhere, desperate in fact. Natural game is about confidence and gaining trust/comfort, their is a fine line between confidence and cocky/arrogance. You may seem arrogant. Familiarity can help them crush on you to, perhaps they can see your personality is consistent.

You seem to be doing a good job of getting them to speak, and I assume listen. You should be listening very carefully for anything that will set off their passion. However you seem to be chasing these girls, how would you feel when some guy is chasing you? Ever been hit on by a gay guy? That will teach how guys can come across to girls, it is super creepy. I have been hit on by several gay men and it certainly changes your mind set on how you come across to girls. You will seriously reevaluate how you look.

You may not be as funny as you need to be, it seems as if they aren't feeling good enough about the conversation. If you are acting to cocky you may seem like a serious D-bag too. I appreciate your boldness, that is the place I am lacking.

I completely disagree with Kino. I don't think any of these girls are ready for kino. You can give them an invitation to touch you but if you touch them with out permission you can look like a super creepy guy. Besides that I have a friend that always does kino, you know what girls think of him? He is creepy. I.E. One of the men I work with will say hey how are you? They say oh were good, he automatically comes in to touch their elbow or arm, that is super unacceptable.

I also disagree that popping into a shop here and there is bad unless it is in the same day. Girls like when guys are interested in them, and we tend to like who likes us most of the time. That doesn't mean you should make that obvious the mere fact that you have seen her twice or three times instead of just once should speak your intentions enough. Don't visit her a butt load.

How do you dress? We need more insight into you. These girls aren't comfortable enough to give you their number their even finding excuses not to give you their number so you probably need to reevaluate things. How can they be comfortable with you if they keep trying to get away and you chase them?

You see them around the store again you say, "still wandering around and not working I see. There was one more question I had, I was trying to put a trip together with a few friends and I was wondering if you can give me some insight on where we should go when we go out there. Especially where I would avoid, you look like your into crazier stuff than me." Or whatever, see it is all in the tone, I get away with saying crazy stuff because of my tone and smile. I am never quites serious and girls love goofy.

Sorry once again for the long post.

Familiarity breeds interest. If someone comes in just enough then they don't come across as creepy, just a lil more interesting, as long as your not outright hitting on them with every visit. Don't come in daily maybe 3 times in 2-3 weeks would be about right, not to often unless you genuinely have reason to go again.

I don't think he is grabbing their full interest, that is the problem. Slowing it down and having less conversation can certainly be helpful from the mysterious stand point. I don't know that that is his problem. Can't figure out what is wrong, talking longer normally makes you more attractive not less. If he said I am sorry but I have to go I am truly enjoying this conversation perhaps we can catch up later. When she shakes her head yes. Go for the kill.

So much to comment on lol.....but I appreciate everyone's remarks.

Kino-

If a girl seems into me or is laughing a lot and seems comfortable, I go for light kino. However, I don't use kino in the reports above because 1) I'm in her work environment and it would seem weird 2) I'm a few feet away from her so I don't want to seem like I"m reaching in and 3) I don't have enough comfort on her side to do it. If I'm in a bar/club setting and she's laughing and seems comfortable I'll do light kino on her arm/hand but not in her place of work.

Generally if I have "targets" I'll try to stop in once every few weeks. The girl who shot me down yesterday after I got her email before, that was the first time I had been there in about 4 weeks. Also, when I go up to someone I've talked to before I say "hey brat" then go from there. If it's a local corner store like the one across the street from me, I go there about 2x a week (and even then I don't know when my target is working or not). But if there are other workers there, guys or girls, I talk to them for a few so that in the event that they're working with my target, I can talk to them as well, which may increase my social proof. But in the best buy case, I went back there bc I forgot to look at tv's the first time, asked her if she could help me or point someone out that could help me since she said she had worked there before vacation.

I will have to list out the IOI's as I go through them. In the event of the cashier who re-opened for me, I took that as an IOI because the guy next to her was finishing up with someone and I was just about to go into a line with no one in there, 4 stations away, when she called over to me that she could help me. But in this case, she had gone from closing down her register to re-opening it again just for me when she could have just let me go into that lane where no one else was waiting. Maybe I'm taking it the wrong way, who knows.

Dress-

I dress casually. I work in a professional environment, so on weekdays I have on a nice polo shirt, black shoes (always clean), black socks and nice khakis that are ironed and orderly. Yesterday was casual day, so I had on my red tshirt, blue jeans and white clean shoes. Usually if I go to the mall or somewhere with the intention of talking to women, I wear a nice pair of khaki shorts and a nice tshirt (a&f or AE or such).

When I talk to women, I'm generally just making convo about whatever, like I would be talking to a guy. Usually I'm angled slightly to the side but my arms are down, open posture, shoulders back and I generally make good eye contact. Sometimes I'll turn as if I'm about to walk away while looking at her, then turn back to her a few secs later. My whole point in talking is to try and reveal what they enjoy doing and what they're passionate about (the European trip for example) and then ask them questions about that. I forgot who said it, but I'm trying to get them to get into that frame, get them being comfortable and passionate about the trip as they remember it so that they will associate me with it. But overall I just start the convos as a normal guy talking to a normal person for the first 5 min, then try to dig deeper for a few more minutes to build comfort (which I can then try to build rapport and attraction with).

In the case of talking to these women, I just talk naturally, act confident and make jokes. I don't get cocky/funny for awhile, maybe I'm not being cocky enough. One girl told me she's french/German, I go "leave out the french part, you don't want people to know you're french, the German part is all you need" and laugh, to which she laughed and joked back.

I'll try to explain myself better, not use as much fluff and try to list out what I feel are IOIs. I hope this explains myself better. I don't talk to women with the intention of "picking them up", I talk with the intention of talking, getting to know them, making them comfortable around me. I'm not hyper, aggressive, stalkerish or a horndog, in fact I RARELY bring up ANYTHING sexual when I talk to these women (although I like the gunwitch method...hmm).

Thanks again for all the help, honest critique and opinions.

I think perhaps you need to start out the conversation right. Instead of starting off the conversation with an introduction of some sort come about with a witty observation. Perhaps something weird about the set up of the room(do not be "better" than them). Or maybe some crazy lady shopping.

My style of observation: Look at the appearance this gentlemen chose to put together. This doesn't seem crafty at all. I don't appreciate this kind of shenanigans.

I kind of have a wide variety, I look for different words and frequently use them because people pay attention to he who is not "generic". Goofy diction makes you stand out, witty observation do well as well.

Indirect approach: Near, by person.

Direct a comment at person:
1. Witty observation/something crazy(catch their attention, don't be the same as anyone else).
2. Another goofy comment usually.
3. A comment or observation about them. Body language/how feeling. Clothes. Accessories(bags, necklace, bracelet, etc.). Company. Environment. Making sure the are a part of the comment. Lots of times they will tell comments regarding whatever you mentioned.
4. If their is a plausible conversation to start from their you have a sweet opening.
5. If not listen for anything that can be interesting. Diction, accent, a peak into her interests(mentions something briefly perhaps expand on it), your/you ....... remind me of this song(music is a great topic, everyone listens to music).

After that the conversation is started. Make sure your not a lingerer. If she is grabbing or keys, turning away, her feet are pointed at the exit, book it. I.E. It was a pleasure to meet you, you have phenomenal afternoon/evening. You come across as a gentlemen and quite charming in fact, most of the time it gives you scarcity as well.

Everything else is all you, I get a lot of interest with this basic start. It isn't something I plan, I actually realized it is something I happen to do and make good leeway with it regularly.

If I am making a direct approach, it is more along the lines of:
1. Hi my names is blank, I just wanted to introduce myself.
2. I shake their hand while I somewhat bow to them looking up into her right eye, With my hand facing up(giving her the power in the hand shake, women love it). I have also had friends shake their hand the same and give them a kiss on the cheek, haven't had the balls to do this one they were at least foreigners.
3. I have never had a women not introduce herself. I usually repeat her name a few times, making sure I got it correct. Obviously if it is simple you look stupid use your own judgement.
4. Than go into my regularly goofy me which is the above naturally.

It seems like you are well dressed enough. I am a big fan of button ups, remember your trying to be different than everyone else. Women love long sleeve button ups for some reason it does wonders for them, even if the sleeves are rolled up.

You seem to be starting conversations very well and even carrying them. Perhaps you are transitioning rough(changing up the pace and asking for their number at a odd time). I am not really sure what you are doing. I am not big on cocky, just not for me. May work well for you. With confidence you don't need to hide these insecurities by over whelming arrogance or cocky remarks. People will see it in your body language shoulders out head held high walking around with a smile and confidence, they will want to know who you are and why you appear to own every place you go to.

Maybe you should be a bit funnier. That seems to be the only fault I can see with out seeing you and your body language. There seem to be some issues with over effort. Be natural man, your a cool a laid back guy who is having a conversation to know people not lay them. Sounds like you are doing good on that end. Your boldness is great, I wish I was as bold as you.

I'm usually a hilarious guy, but I've noticed in some of these reports above that either too funny not cocky, or just not funny. My main goal when I go into a convo with a girl is to talk to them, get to know them, and if they seem cool, get their number and see what happens from there. Friends, great. Sex, even better. But I don't see women as objects nor am I hardcore into getting their numbers just for sex or hooking up.

I sometimes wear long sleeved-shirts during work, though I try for polos now that it's 93 outside here

Since I'm more natural and laid-back, I want to start doing more direct approaches but I gotta work up the balls for this. Maybe I need to have a straight mindset of "ok I want a number, ok I want this..." instead of just "eh I'll talk to her and see how it goes". Maybe having a straight focus/intention will help me guide my attention to that.

Couple more mini-field reports.

This morning at work in the coffee/vending area I talked to a girl (late 20s/early 30s) that I talked to lightly before. Made small talk, weekend and such, maybe 20-30 secs. Funny part is I act as if we've interacted before, when the truth is I just see her in passing often.

I don't want to include this one, but oh well -

Few weeks ago I gave a copy of my fav book, Siddhartha, to a cute nerdy/stylish 8.5 blonde girl whos desk I walk by everyday to get to the cafeteria. We had talked a couple times before, very briefly, and she's into books and just got jack kerouac books for her bday. I knew she was an intellectual so I dropped it off her desk after she had left. Stopped by today, told her I was the one who dropped it off and asked if she liked it. Said she's been meaning to read it but she will soon; she seemed kinda weirded out/busy so I told her to have fun with it then left. Bad move on my part.

Got my haircut by an 8.5 white/PR chick with 7 tats and lip piercing. I asked her how much ink she has, she said 7, I told her wrong answer. She looks at me, I say, "the right answer should be 'not enough' " and this instantly gets her on the good side. We talk about her first tat (18, tramp stamp, she considers it a mistake), her kid, the area since we both grew up here, work.

Few IOI's -

- talking about the ink, she laughed and seemed playful
- I was about to get up, noticed the sideburns were too long. told her to trim em shorter, to which she replied "you want my initials in there too?" I said yea, and your name, bank account # and social security #". She said "oh you're so funny"...seemed sarcastic yet genuine.

I told her I'd have to show her the pic of my friend's daughter (I've mentioned her on here before), she said sure. Customer came in, I left to go to the gym, 2 stores way. After gym, came back and they were sitting around so she came out and I showed her a few pics and told her a dhv story and a pic of me and my buddy at the Buffalo Bills game when we were both shirtless and flexing in 12 degree weather. Talked for a few more min, joked about her 2 1/2 yr old boy being a nudist and associated it with how I used to be when I was a kid and still am around the house (to give a suggestion), teased her, invited her to a BBQ and got her # relatively easy. I just texted her with some push-pull "you did a good job on the haircut, too bad you don't have enough ink".

Also, few weeks ago I bought a grill from a local hardware store. Talked to cashier girl, about a 7.5 or so but cute brunette that I had talked to briefly before. I did the routine from the first post above where I made it seem like we had talked before. She gave me a raffle thing to donate $1, I took it, started to fill it out and for some reason said "I'll give you my cell, you can text me but don't go overboard, I have my limits you know". She asked if I really wanted her to txt me, I said sure, she said ok I'll txt when I'm out at 10. I'm thinkin yea sure, but she txts me at like 10:30, says she always keeps her word but she'll never do it again because it's weird. I tell her I appreciate people keeping their word and having guts to be spontaneous (using the Attraction Code- shaping technique). She just txtd me 30 min ago telling me to come in to her work and she's there til 10 (4 blocks away), but I told her she can stop by after instead, only for an hour.



Generally, I talk to anyone and everyone. I see guys from the next row over at work, I say hey xx whats up? I see women in front of me at the checkout line, whether they're a 5 or a 10, and find something to comment on. "So what's the max part about the pepsi max?" I see women at the vending machine at work and say "so many choices. what's the pick for today? what, twinkies? come on now, you know you wanna go for the snickers bar. it's just calling your name...." or anything. I'm very social in general and very assertive, so I just talk about anything and everything.

Sounds like you are doing solid. Instead of paying attention to actions start paying attention to body language.

You should start noticing their head movement. Their smile or laugh be a slight gap between the teeth when they smile with a tipped back head is a true smile/laugh. People always smile with their eyes as well, some people try to give a straight face but smile with their eyes super noticeable. When a girl starts to crush on you she will start to blush, some times the red hues will only be at the top of her ears. A slightly tipped side ways head is also a sign, this one is one of thee easiest to spot.

Which way does their torso lean/face. Torso is a subconscious an easy read. Either you have their full attention or you do. Shoulders will raise in shy girls and they will appear to become a turtle with their head somewhat hiding.

Eyes: This is my favorite. High blink rate, submissive eyes(looking down or away shy), bedroom glossy eyes, dilated eyes(massive pupils).

Feet: if a girl is showing you her full attention her foot will be pointing towards you. Often in a group the person most interesting will have feet pointing towards him. If her feet are point towards an exit, bid her good day and bounce unless she has been showing you alot of positive body language and looks like she just as something to do.

Then of course their are the regular things like preening. Which is anything from straightening shirt, pants, playing with jewelry, hair, any true adjustment of their appearance after solid eye contact with you. Often times with in a minute or two they will look back to make eye contact once again if they are truly interested.

Now you can't just have one of these things happen. You need to look for the body language in clusters.

The hands to say a lot as well. But they are also easier to control. If a women is willing to show you her palms and wrist she is at the very least incredibly comfortable around you. If she clenches her hands or doesn't show her palms she is not very open to you.

There are so many it is ridiculous. I believe you should be looking at their body language just as much as her actions.

I can normally tell whether a girl is attracted to me very quickly. In fact if I make eye contact with them and they do one of several things I know when they are attracted to me. For instance I went to grab a co-worker from the back at my work, I see this girl we smile, look at each other for a moment, she looked down shy like. I walk to the back as I come back she is pulling her hair away from her face with a tipped sideways head smiling at me while making solid eye contact(preening for when I came back). She had red hues on her ears and I just knew she was attracted to me. Fly girl too, to bad I had to go do somethings.

Their is a difference between someone who is comfortable and someone who is attracted to you. You have to pay very close attention though. With body language is truly is the small things that matter, you want to let their subconscious talk to you, and they always do through body language.

Speaking about these "several things" - are there any other besides what you mentioned in your example with co-worker?
Personally my "several things" in this situation are - her fixing her hair and fixing her posture or clothes. I am sure there are more