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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:55 pm 
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I hate routines, openers, etc. Sure, that may be because I have a couple drinks when I'm out and decide to talk to women, but it has forced me to work on my communication skills. I've been doing a lot better at being natural. But sometimes crazy stuff happens and it helps to get a 2nd opinion.

So here goes:

A couple weeks ago I was at a party with a bunch of friends. The original plan was to just have as much fun as possible, so I had a bit more to drink than usual. I wasn't sloppy, just not the sharpest mind in the room. I'd seen a group of girls including 2 I already knew a couple times, and when I passed close by I figured I'd start talking to them. The girls I know are fine as hell, and the friends they had with them were hot too. Hot female friends with more hot friends....it's like striking oil. I couldn't really decide which one to go for, so I just started talking to all of them. At one point one of the girls I had known for a while asked me, without really any mention of sex before, the following question:

"So out of the three of us you've known (one girl wasn't there), rate us from least slutty to most slutty."

Damn, um, wow that threw me off for a sec. one of my better points is that I don't panic easily, though, so I brainstormed for a few seconds. They got insistent on an answer, so I gave them one. I told the girl who asked me she was the least slutty, because she had a boyfriend the whole time I've known her. Now, I really don't like the 3rd girl, the one who wasn't around, at all. But they knew that, and at the risk of just sounding like a jerk, I show clear hesitation to answer and say that it's probably the other girl who is in this group. They immediately tell me I'm wrong, and accuse me of lying. I admit I wanted to act nice towards a girl who wasn't there, and then declare her a college bicycle. They laugh, and more importantly, I find out that the first girl is no longer with her boyfriend. So I'm gonna pursue that a bit more.

Now I'm wondering, if you had been asked that question by three girls, what would you all have done? Try to answer? Make a joke and try to ignore it? Would it have be different if you knew them as opposed to their being three complete strangers.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:10 am 
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I would have teased her. I'm all about natural game, but sometimes using the right technique at times doesn't hurt. But this doesn't mean I am thinking of techniques all the time or I memorize certain lines and try to fit them wherever I can in a conversation. Rather, I let the conversation flow naturally, and if I feel like the situation demands for a certain technique, then I use it.

Also, I feel, in the larger scheme of things, not saying the right thing or even coming across as needy/wussy at times doesn't matter. It's who you really are as a person that matters. Let me explain: if you were living your passions, following your desires, so much that you enjoy every minute of your life and are absolutely psyched with where you are going with your life, then would it really matter what a girl thinks about you for saying something which might have made you look needy for a moment?

Think about it. When you meet a great girl, don't you overlook her flaws at times because she's such a great person? Does her saying something silly once in a while change your perception about her? Does it make her less attractive to you?

Hence, if this core part of your life has not been handled, if you are not following your purpose in life, then you'll always feel conscious about what you say to a girl and always worried about how a girl might perceive what you say.

Anyway, back to the technique I was talking about. I came across it on some forum some time back and saved it. I've used it to great success. Would have made the situation you were in fun. Here it is:
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Reframing:

We're constantly learning, calcifying, and altering the ways we interact with others from day to day. The purpose of learning new projection techniques is to direct the change in a way that's going to help us achieve our goals.

Now, I don't know about you (well I'm mostly unsure about John) but one of my goals is to have more fun in interactions with women. One way of achieving this that we cover in the live coaching is reframing.

Reframing is taking a statement by someone and filtering it through a different context so that a different interpretation of the words is created. You can choose any one you want but the one that I find most productive is her being a sleazy, dirty, socially inept, alcoholic with personality disorders :D

The reason this one is so powerful is that it creates the right kind of tension: sexual tension (different to sexual chocolate). By reframing her statements as her hitting on you, you create the context whereby she is trying to get in to your pants and you are trying to defend yourself from her sleazy advances.

It's a fun and playful way of interacting with not only women but people in general. It creates and releases tension with is the basis of all humor.

There are two important things to keep in mind when doing this:
1. This is not about making her feel bad, it's about bringing more joy to her world through playfully interacting with her. It's not about status, or value, or any of those other manipulations that people use, it's about being a guy that has fun in everything he does and brings fun to all those around him.

2. Don't try on focus on coming up with the exact line to say or trying to memorize the lines from past adventures, focus on the context that you are using to filter the information. If you focus on the next line you are going to hit her with then you're going to be in your head, if you're focusing on how bad a flirt she is then you're going to be in hers; you're going to be present with her.

Here are a few examples:

Girl: I think I need to leave

Reframe: What? I'm not going to leave with you! We barely know each other!


Girl: you are so charming, do you say this to all girls?

Reframe: Only the ones who keep objectifying my body and staring at me like a piece of meat. HELLO, my eyes are up here honey.


Girl: Are you staring at my tits?

Reframe: I'm EXAMINING them. I'm the doctor, you're the patient, and [pull a random girl into set] she is the nurse. How long since your last check-up?
Hope this helps :)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:32 pm 
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Nice Abs, I like that quote you threw in there. Reframing is great.

In regards to the initial question about responding to the girls question;

I would go with something like this...

HB: So out of the three of us you've known (one girl wasn't there), rate us from least slutty to most slutty?

Me: Well, you're showing wayy too much leg so I'm going to go with you being the most slutty... (she may not be showing much/any...I'm just going to blow it out of proportion anyway for fun)

HB: :O

If she's going to come out and ask a bold question like that, then I'd straight away give her a bold answer...one that shocks her more than likely.

In some cases you can have good success by calling the girl out on everything she says...not in a harsh way by any means, don't make her feel like shit. Just blow things out like suggesting she's showing off more than she actually is...this will appear funny as well as shocking to her. Challenge her to come back with something.

Then go on to say something nicer about the other 2 girls and she'll be trying to qualify herself to you at some point.

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