i know myself and i know the world well enough to be able to say that I KNOW THE GAME. and i dont believe that there's anything out there in the world that could help me increase my game by any worthwhile percentage. i caught on to this pua phenomenon after i've already figured out so much about the game that i feel theres no need to read any books. but its frustrating cause i know that theres so much more i can learn. it seems all the advice out there is for afcs. it took me about 4 solid weekends of going out to figure most of the basics that are taught so much. it didnt take long to realize that i needed to be confident, smile, engage her in conversation, etc. but the littler details i.e. when to lie about ur age, never ask her about her boyfriend, when to abandon her for a little bit, when to cut off her liquor, took me sooo much longer to learn. but it seems that advice is never to be found. so i find myself rejecting all pua material as "shit for beginners". fuck opening a set. i want to open the entire club. fuck just getting a girl in ur bed. i want her friends to sleep on the couch while im doing it.

take this weekend for example theres me, my girl MG, my best friend BF, and his girl BFG

we just met these chicks and they dont know each other. now BF and BFG are going to BFGs house. me and MG have no place to go. how do we convince BFG to let me come over with MG without raining on BFs parade?

there are so many other questions besides that 1 that i can ask but it was the easiest to remember...

where is the advice for that question or the so many other ones like it out there in the world?


im starting to believe this entire pua thing only gets people from 0s to 3s. anything other than that has to be paid for or learned through years of t and e.

i'd say my game is @ a 7.5 and to get it to a 10 will probably take me about 4 more years. i'd say about .5% of the men in the world are 10s

There is only so much anyone can teach about a subject and it's impossible to imagine every single instance you might encounter in your life and that's what you're looking for. There is no advice out there about it because you can't write down every situation and say "Do X in Y situation."

You cannot make anyone do whatever you want even though you can go quite a ways sometimes. After a while it is about doing it yourself. No one walked Eddie Van Halen through writing Eruption.

Edit: And according to google, the world's estimated population is 6,706,993,152 and .5 percent of that is about 335 million.

Every couple of months I think that I know everything and that there is nothing else for me to learn; then I realize I am wrong. When you get good at something it is natural for your ego to convince you that you have mastered it, but no one is ever done learning. As you get older and understand more about game, more about women, more about the world, and most importantly more about yourself; you will come to realize that there is always room to improve.

Obviously pua material is useless unless you try it out and gain experience from it, and all great puas will tell you experience is 100X more valuable than unused knowledge. But it seems to me you haven't seen the broader scope of what pu is all about. Most pu material being released nowadays focuses upon inner game issues, natural game techniques (ie little details), and a better understanding of women in general.
Your right there is a lot of newbie material out there, and if you think you're better than that, why not move on to more advanced material? If all you have read is the game, don't criticize pua material in general. The game is an insignificant book in comparison to the amount of knowledge that is available.

Also don't expect pua material to solve all your problems. Pickup is an art not a science. Enjoy the ride and don't worry so much if things don't go your way every time. You can't possibly expect someone to write a book to tell you what to do in every single possible outcome. That's just unreasonable. It's your life, live it, roll with the punches, and figure it out as it goes along; or post a thread to ask for advice.

Great advice, both of you

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This is true, and another thing to keep in mind is that game is always changing. As you get older, as time goes by, things are changing. I used to go to clubs and fuck girls in the bathroom, or in my truck. This was my game. My approach was to just go up and grind on them and if they liked it, I'd try to fuck them and kept pushing the envelope.

Years later, I have made my biggest gains just from social calibration. The last 6 months or so I have made a conscious effort to up my game to the next level. I'm taking out the hottest girls in the bar now. I know exactly where you are coming from though.

You have your good days and bad days. Sometimes I walk into a bar/club and I own the place. Before I leave I know everyone and can take my pick. Other times it's the complete opposite. But I try to learn from those nights. It does get frustrating but I think if you just stick with it you'll get increasingly better.

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