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Anyaway, let me ask you something, this is for "naturals". Did you have a period in your life when your natural ability to PU girls started to fade and you were confused and didn`t know how to proceed in your love life.


Personally I had that phase after finishing highschool and going to the college. In highschool I was mad dog, loud, nasty, crazy, alpha in its worst, had an attitutude like Mohamed Ali - "I am the greatest" and I had huge succeses with girls but when I grew up to college age, I was forced to change, to become more mature, to calm down a bit etc.
During that (fortunately short) period I was also lost in PUA. My "old" methods didn`t work nearly as good as they did before, simply beacuse I also abbandond some of them cause they were primitive and immature and yet I didn`t emmediately develop my new style. Fortunately I overcome that very soon and have developed new style which works great for the last 10 yrs, but when I now remember that ugly one year period, it was tough and I let many nice girls pass by me.

I wanted to share this and to see did others have that phase?

Marco

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Natural supreme

As a PUA going more and more into the natural state... Yes, I know what you mean! The routines does not have the same magic in them anymore. It is not as fun to tell those stories anymore. You rely more on your inner game and sometimes you have not developed it enough.

The secret is to have fun while doing it, this is what works for me.

Some time ago I was out and could not open a single set during the whole night... Just because I did not have fun, I was not motivated enough...

Actually my biggest problem was that I was waaay to cocky that it wasn`t even fun anymore. Moreso, I went to other town on college where I had none of the social circle and lots of my success in highschool was acomplished thaks to strong and big socila circle. All of the sudden I was alone and cocky and ignorant as hell. It was no go situation but I addapted pretty fast!

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Natural supreme

I know what you mean, sometimes the cocky part takes over. It is something to avoid. Just like you avoid bragging when DHVing. I try to never be anything else than friendly, open and fun when I sarge. But as everyone else, I have been through the part when I realized that my game was pretty good and I stopped caring about the sets, I got arrogant. Of course my game dropped! I think you need to keep the flame going to get over the temporary downs...

Ezo

i can totally relate, same exact thing happened to me

i was "the man" at my old school but when i moved to another school
(for a short period though) everybody said i was too cocky and i just stopped being me and faded away. but now i'm a freshman in high school and i'm bringing back my old habits. turns out girls LOVE c&f guys. i also missed out on a lot of girls during the time when i stopped being cocky.

With regards to college game I found C&F has it's pro's and con's. It's easier to be C&F in night or daygame where you don't know everyone or where the people you meet you don't have to worry about seeing again after the lay (unless you want to).

C&F at college gets the girl you want, but also has the habit of pissing off the others if not done correctly. Mainly because you win over their friend through such a technique, I think.

I was sarging this girl in the college library today and she started telling me how one of my wings (she didn't know I knew him) was being all arrogant to their friends group at a party, but he didn't even know them. I just was pissing myself in my head, C&F approach gone sour!! Of course I used this to my advantage by pitching myself as "the nice guy who would never do that" and then just being C&F under that guise, in order to get away with it. Never amog/bust on a wing though, I don't like PUA's who use wings like that.

I have ups and downs in my game also. A couple of weeks ago I had a mad 1 week session of AA!!! I NEVER have AA! It was ok though , a couple of hours and a few dozen approaches later .

lol, i see everyone here has already faded away from their natural game...
im still in high school and only just begun the "overly-cocky" phase...
anything i should look out for?

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rAFC. I'm on a good path.
16 yrs. old, and loving it.

unfortunately i am literally going through this phase right now. Just graduated, now in college with hardly any friends because i moved away and im realizing its hard to come off as cocky/funny when somebody doesnt know you and you just come off as real real cocky which i think is not a good attribute at all. Is there any way to become a little more humble?

Wow... Summed me up perfectly. In high school from year 9-12 no dramas at all with chicks, then in first year of uni stopped being a hard arse, stopped dressing and acting like I owned the world, and while I'd never go back to the immature state I was in at high school, I lost my gf (wondered why the fuck she loved me when I was a bad arse but then ditched me when I calmed down), started being way too nice to chicks, spoke to them softly and timidly, and had the worst droughts. In high school I doubt I would ever have read "The Game", but my bad run in uni was what led me to it. Took some serious effort to get back on track, and now I'm in a better position than high school coz I don't attract bimbos who are pathetically interested in bad arses

I was fail in high school, partly because I went to an all-guys school, and partly because I dated the same girl from my Junior year of high school through the first semester of college.

I started picking up lays after I broke up with her. It was weird, though; I never chose the girls. They chose me. And it was almost all social circle. Here's how my pre-pooah lays went down:

1. High school sweetheart. Met her through social circle. Her friends had to tell me that she was interested in me.
2. Drunken social circle hookup. I had declared celibacy after breaking up with girl 1, and girls started trying to "break" me of my celibacy. A LOT of girls. This one succeeded.
3. After avoiding sex for eight months, I was starting to go crazy, so I broke again, this time for good. Dated this girl for about three months.
4. Random drunken social circle hookup. Eventually, she SOI'd hard enough that I realized she wanted sex.
5. Random drunken social circle hookup. Pure physicality. I had decided, for that night, that I was a player.
6. Random drunken hookup. Not exactly social circle; the girl was a fatty that was approaching every dude in the bar that night. I was drunk enough to go home with her.
7. Social circle relationship. Full courtship action from beginning to first sexy time. Also my best relationship ever. She and I broke up (my idea) when I started law school because I wouldn't have time for her.
8. Drunken social circle hookup. "Hey, let's go. Time to fuck." Full dominance, assumed success. When I was pulling this girl, there was simply no doubt in my mind that I'd do anything other than succeed.
9. Drunken hookup. My friend's MOM got really physical with me and pulled me back to her house. Heh.
10. The lay isn't impressive, but the way I got it is hilarious. I walked up to something like two dozen girls over the course of the night, saying "Heyyy, wanna have sex?" with a playful smile. The first twenty-something said no, but didn't "blow me out." They thought it was funny and wished me luck on my mission to get laid. They also said that they appreciated my candor and that guys who beat around the bush are lame. The last one (social circle, had a crush on me for five years and never told me) said yes.
11. Next-door neighbor. My friends had to inform me that she was interested.
12. Went down the same way as number 7. Full courtship. My last lay before getting into pickup, and my last girlfriend ever. She dumped me; I rationalize it as karmic backlash for dumping number 7 (who was really upset when I broke up with her).

The thing was, I never had any idea what I was doing right. NONE of these lays came from cold approaches. Either the girl opened me or we were social circle for a good long time before the sex. The defining factor in all of these, now that I look back on them, was kino escalation; either i started escalating and the girl reciprocated, or she escalated on me and I reciprocated. It was just a matter of going for it.

Kino escalation and booze, actually.

For the past year or so, I've been working on deprogramming myself back to my natural state. My pickups are a lot simpler now. Less tech, more emotion. I want to get back to a conscious understanding of what I was doing right in those circumstances, and be able to repeat it whenever I want.