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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:32 pm 
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As I can see in many threads here guys have all the right theories how to get a girl, still they can not get her. It does not matter how many great pickup artist lines you have. If you are feeling bad and do not want to talk to the girl you will never get her, because she will notice, the female intuition. MPUA'S can talk all day long about the blueprint on how to be an alphamale, that is good, but if you still feeling insecure about your self, an try-hard-AplhaMale will not get to girl either.

If im gonna approach an HB10, I get really nervous. If im gonna approach an HB3 I do not give a fuck - think the same about them, most guys can get a HB3, why? Because the HB3 can smell that you do not give a shit and you think yourself as the price. Same can the HB10, they can also smell fear. - that is my first rule "Think of all the girls as of an HB1" (with a great personality), you are simply talking to her because you are a fun "out-going guy" with no hidden agenda. Would you get sad if a HB1 rejected you? NO. HB10 rejected you? YES. Stop puttin HB10 on a pedistal. They are all just humans with the same needs.

Yes I said I get nervous when I approach an HB 10, easpacially in the streets, the parks and during daytime. This is a real simple trick, some will call it basic NLP, self hypnosis, some will call it something else. But this I have always with me when I see a smoking hot model somewhere looking lonely. Everybody want raport, even smoking hot models. THIS IS ONE OF MY METHODS.

Firs of all: Amplify Positive feelings
1. Close your eyes, look with your eyeballs up in the roof, sky, to the top of your brain so it hurts a little, then take a deep breath through your nose and close your eyes and relax with your eyeballs, go deep in your self and think about one of the best feelings you've ever had. It doesnt have to be anything about a HB, it can be when you niece told you she loved you, when you see your mother and give her a kiss and a hug, when you are playing poker with your best buddies. Really it can be anything. Just get yourself in that amazing feeling.
2. See what you saw and hear what you hear when you felt that good feeling.
3. As you do so notice where this really amazing feeling comes from. Where in your body does it start? Where does it move to?
4. When you stop thinking of that feeling where does it go?
5. Then go back to the amazing feeling and let it come up. Just before it goes away, imagine pulling it out of your body and back to where it begins, so that it moves in a circle, and begin to spin it round and round, faster and faster.
6. Notice that as you spin it faster the feeling gets stronger. Do you you see know what I mean? yeah feels good right? feeling like a champ? Yeah I thought so.. Your body is capable of so much pleasure.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:33 pm 
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Ofc you can not do this in front of the girl, if you walk in starbucks, spots her, IF you do get nervous, which I always get, just look at her for 1millisecond and run in to the bathroom as you have to pee. Then come out of there smoothly with that amazing feeling, and she will notice, she is a female.

Yeah ofc shit can go wrong, she can be mentally ill, out of ciggarettes, stressed from work, waitning on somebody close to her. And rejects you. That shit hurts, even for a MPUA. It doesnt matter why she rejects you, if she rejects me I have another way of thinking of my inner world.

Eliminate negative feelings:

Have in mind for this exercise the previous exercise. The same good feeling. And close your eyes the same way

1. Think about the feelings you do feel from the rejection. How you did feel stuck and blocked, how you the seconds after she told you to "fuck off" did feel the limits of your own behavoiur. Do not try to escape them, embrace the chaos inside of you just for a short second.
2. Imagine watching the scenario and the feelings you felt on a screen and taking hold of the brightness button. Then, in one quick move, fast lightning move, turn it all the way bright, One moment you see it, then completely whited out
3. Do it again. Imagine the thing that made you feel bad in this situation and white it out, really quickly.
4. Repeat the previous step two or three times, until it comes naturally.
5. NOW. Take the amazing feeling you were working on before, and as you imagine the difficult situation in the future, again white out the negative feeling and spin this really good feeling around.
6. Hear an strong inner voice of you saying "Its all good".
7. Focus on the good feeling spinning faster through out your whole body - and notice what happens as your body fills with an incredible sense of well-being.
8. Shake your body in order to break the bad state and go back to a good, neutral state.
9. To verify that this new strategy works automatically, think about the negative situation and see how you feel about it. Can you imagine feeling bad?


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Repeat this exercise until the new strategy works automatically. Do not give up. Reapeat reapeat. And do this when nobody sees, If you are in a Starbucks, go in to the bathroom, if you are in the park pretend enhoying the sun - Because - next - boom new hottie over there you talk to.

I would say this can be very helpful for guys who have the right theories and know a lot of PUA theories and rules of the game.

I personally do not like hard PUA rules, be your best self. Ofc you can look up some Openers and how to kiss close, you still have to do what feels right for you in the moment, no girl are the same. You might have a huge herpes so you can not kiss close her or there is something about her or the situation that makes perfect sense you cant use a specific opener or a kiss close.

Match her body language and try to make her to feel connected to you. Its not important what you say, its important how you say it, with right tone of voice and your very own uniqe body language.

Beginners should not start talking to HB10's ofc. See long term and use these two exercises in the beginnings of your transformation. Go out there in the day, say HI to some old dudes the first day, the second day to some old women, Then you start asking how they are, then you can ask the old timers about the direction to something or the time. Then say HI to ugly girls in a few weeks, maybee 20 a day. Then you start talking to them about the weather and wind. Then you just say HI to HB7, do the same, and so on and so on, until you come to HB10. Do your own transformation, what feels good for you, with a litte excitement inside you so you always push a little further. Really, what would be more awesome, playing world of warcraft and jerking of to HB10 porn? Or actually go out there and talk to them, give them hugs, get their numbers, and now and then have some great sex with them? Playing World of warcraft or your new playsation and jerking of to HB10, will get you no where. Really, read some books on self development. Go out there and f*cking win. I also can recommend NOFAP, that helped me in the beginning, was very hard from mastrubating 2-3 times a day to go cold turkey, but it is worth it. Check out NOFAP, google it. Im serious.


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i don't understand any of this.

Your English is better than my Swedish, though. Kudos

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:45 pm 
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i don't understand any of this.
Ok a summary: exercise 1, a way to get your self in a good state of mind before talking to the girl.
Exercise 2: IF she tells you to fuck off. Do exercise two. To eliminate bad thoughts.

Ofc you do not understand if you not have tried it :)

I do not know what to call it? Self hypnosis?


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make three posts for one point

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make three posts for one point
I know that, thank you.


It was more than 6000 characters :D And I wanted it to split up in 3 chapters nicely so guys can read one, then read the other post, etc. I did not count the letters, I just splitted them up in three posts. :roll:


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So.. if you get rejected try this and come back here and tell me how it worked out for you.
Thats all I have to say for now :lol:


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So.. if you get rejected try this and come back here and tell me how it worked out for you.
Thats all I have to say for now :lol:
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So.. if you get rejected try this and come back here and tell me how it worked out for you.
Thats all I have to say for now
So this is a way to prevent rejection? You have to love the new guys.

Here's the thing. Rejection is going to happen and that's what people that have approach anxiety are afraid of. That fear is shaping their current reality. What changes that fear is repetition and small victories. It could be as simple as knowing that you had the girl interested, saying something clever, or even getting a phone number.

Now I am at the point of knowing that you don't approach too much because you are intimidated by women that you find attractive to the point that you still have to tell yourself that she isn't attractive. You're not yet in a position to tell people how to deal with approach anxiety. The best advice for conquering that is accepting that not all women are going to be interested but if you see one that you like be in the moment and approach.

Btw...beginner's should approach whoever they think is attractive HB10 or not. They're just girls. Quit giving them so much value.

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So.. if you get rejected try this and come back here and tell me how it worked out for you.
Thats all I have to say for now
So this is a way to prevent rejection? You have to love the new guys.

Here's the thing. Rejection is going to happen and that's what people that have approach anxiety are afraid of. That fear is shaping their current reality. What changes that fear is repetition and small victories. It could be as simple as knowing that you had the girl interested, saying something clever, or even getting a phone number.

Now I am at the point of knowing that you don't approach too much because you are intimidated by women that you find attractive to the point that you still have to tell yourself that she isn't attractive. You're not yet in a position to tell people how to deal with approach anxiety. The best advice for conquering that is accepting that not all women are going to be interested but if you see one that you like be in the moment and approach.

Btw...beginner's should approach whoever they think is attractive HB10 or not. They're just girls. Quit giving them so much value.
A way..? My way.? It works for only me anyway what I know so far :) You are saying almost the exactly same thing as I did, dont give them value and it can be hard for guys whom have not been in the game as long as mystery or yourself. Yes absoloutley I agree with you 100%, a phone number is a big victory. I know before I knew anything that no matter how much canned material I had, I would feint if I talked to a HB10. Why? I do not know. Im not a neurologist, really im not, this self hypnosis "Stuff" have made it easy for me to approach a girl.

So I think it was a summary or something like that on "the rules of the game" (dont exaktly remember) I read along time ago and simply explained that the social skill is like a muscle, you have to train it from scratch to be able to do """heavy stuff""". As I remember reading about mysterys journey (correct me if im wrong) in the first years he just got shut down and rejected by girls constantly, I do not know why, another forum " Flashback.org " (where they write about everything from drugs to travel, to politics, science, they talk about everything, not so much PUA) there was a few threads where guys asking each other about PUA stuff, Q:"Does it work??" A:"Hell no, I just got more depressed and even worse picking up girls and starting to over thinking stuff" I do not know either why they did say that, I have no idea. That just got me started wondering why is it like that, that is much deeper then? Am I right? Correct me if Im wrong.

Sure as one of your friend posted in this thread, you learned mystery everything, in that case its an honor talking to you, I really do recognise greatness and greatness should be recgonised, and we all wanna learn from the elite. (I mean we have Universitys for a reason). Still im getting little defensive because all that "youre wrong im right", So you got me all figuerd out by now? Thats great, because I do not got shit figured out on me. Im not gonna argue on that level what level Im on, we are all on our own journey and with diffrent backgrounds. I think thats the beauty of it. We all are not apes and hardwired 100% the same.

Im feeling this conversation getting out of hand and the thread is not filling the purpose I expected it to fill.
Feel free to erase it if that is the case. I dont care, Im not here to hold somebodys hand, just trying to explain my journey from nothing to something. And I'am hoping I could give somebody ideas, not of your caliber. Ofc my stuff isnt the worlds answer on pleasing women.

My physics teacher is not on the same level as Einstein, he still not give me a hard time or Einstein would not give my teacher a Hard time. We are all JourneyMans.

Exactly as casanova or don juan, (I do not know). Would give you a hard time.

Childish argument over nothing. See you later Alphas.
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I think the post was good. I know there is a good book on this called "The new technology of Achievement" and it uses the same approach. I think that those NLP techniques make sense. They have a very strong psychology background to support them too. Sometimes we do these techniques without even realizing that there is a term that describes them, at least I did. But this book gave me new ideas. Have you read any other book on this matter that you would recommend?


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