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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:28 pm 
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I post this in "natural game" because that is the only game I do.

The situation is particular:
- I've met this girl on the street where she was with friends, as a joke I invited her to dine with me (McDonald's, it was a joke), she accepted. I paid.
- Turns out we work in the same industry, she is at the very beginning of her career, I'm in the middle of it, we have a 20 years age difference. (we didn't know each other and we are certainly not colleagues).
- I invited her for two more dinner trips (much more fancier than McDonalds, think USD 300/person), which I also paid.
- There was certainly an emotional connection (she posted it on her Facebook-wall not knowing I could read it) but for other reasons we couldn't stay for the night), she did kiss me (and surprised me with that) on the first dinner date but didn't want to kiss goodbye at the last dinnerdate.
- She was always uncomfortable with the age difference
- I have a professional goal to achieve which she considers (with good reason) impossible to reach, but I will reach that before the end of March. She did explicitly - and half jokingly - accept to go on multiple dates if and when I reached that goal. She explicitly asked me to keep her informed on when and how I reach said goal (she does now receive the company's mailing lists for that reason).
- If and when I reach said goal my "social proof" goes skyhigh (within the whole industry)

Now she does not take my calls and does not react to my text-messages or emails. I've stopped contacting her but she does receive the company emailing list so she knows how close I am in reaching my goals (although she might not believe it).

Now my question is: How should I re-initiate contact with her, there are a few possibilities:
- I can send her a personal email inviting her to go on the promised dates, minutes after she gets the company's press statement informing her I reached that goal.
- I can forget her all together
- I can send a personal letter to inform her I reached said goal, attach the actual reports and invite her to the agreed dates
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:17 pm 
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She said she would go on multiple dates with me if I reached my goal? :roll: This is her way of saying please don't contact her any longer. She doesn't respond to any of your attempts to get in contact and she was uncomfortable with the age difference from the beginning. This is a lost cause, you reaching your goal doesn't change her interest level or your age.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:31 pm 
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She said she would go on multiple dates with me if I reached my goal? :roll: This is her way of saying please don't contact her any longer. She doesn't respond to any of your attempts to get in contact and she was uncomfortable with the age difference from the beginning. This is a lost cause, you reaching your goal doesn't change her interest level or your age.
She agreed to the multiple dates between the two dinner dates and before she posted on her facebook wall hiw muchbshe liked these dates. Her body languages showed she was interested in me.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:29 pm 
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I believe she acted under peer-pressure or didn't believe she was "worth" me.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:50 pm 
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I believe she acted under peer-pressure or didn't believe she was "worth" me.
Oh dear. I'm afraid to tell you, you're wrong, and that while there MAY have been a possibility of her being into you, she definitely is no longer.

You seem like a nice guy - but also an inexperienced one. If you're "surprised" at a girl kissing you on a second date, then it would appear that you haven't been in this situation much!

You should never, ever, have taken her out on two expensive dates. A woman will not become interested in you because you treat her to expensive things. She enjoyed being taken out and wined and dined, but NOT you. She posted on facebook because she enjoyed the experience - doesn't mean she liked you!

You also obviously didn't escalate quickly enough.

You didn't even get a kiss on the third date? That is a SURE sign of lost interest.

She doesn't take your calls, emails, or text messages. You should take THAT message and stop even thinking about this girl. Emailing her right after she gets the company email or sending her a personal letter will not come off as sweet, but creepy. Don't be weird - forget about her altogether and find other women worth pursuing.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:22 pm 
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God damn 300x2? And I'm over complaining about spending 70.....

I would suggest gaming other girls only because she may have been interested at first but it seems like she isn't any longer. It's hard to tell but I feel like you did not use a lot of kino.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:07 am 
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No paying for dates, EVER. That means nothing over your $5 soft drink that YOU drank. This is the NATURAL section, as in NATURAL PRIMAL ATTRACTION and direct SEDUCTION, (i.e. "I want you."). No script, no neg, no kino, no tentative nothing. You are the MAN, a GENTLEMAN in public and a MASTER in the bedroom.

A natural only agrees to see a woman (a romantic ENCOUNTER not a date), if he is certain she likes and wants him. If you ask a woman out, it is because you want her close to you, not maybe. If you ask a woman out, it's on. You must put her on notice of that, "I want you. My intentions are to make you mine and have my way with you." If for whatever reason you allow the woman to get out of having sex with you on encounter 1, she has 1 sole option after that- she must perform sexually. For encounter 2, you will tell a woman, "I look forward to spending the weekend with you." No negotiations. If you get any static, you answer is, "you're either here for a 1 time fuck or you are a solid woman ready for a love affair. Let's get to it."

No kino. You approach a woman upon first meeting to kiss her. Any resistance, you kiss her more forcibly, and you say, "I told you I want you. I'm not gonna hide my feelings."

You do not spend any money on any woman who is not your wife or your girlfriend.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:11 pm 
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No paying for dates, EVER. That means nothing over your $5 soft drink that YOU drank. This is the NATURAL section, as in NATURAL PRIMAL ATTRACTION and direct SEDUCTION, (i.e. "I want you."). No script, no neg, no kino, no tentative nothing. You are the MAN, a GENTLEMAN in public and a MASTER in the bedroom.

A natural only agrees to see a woman (a romantic ENCOUNTER not a date), if he is certain she likes and wants him. If you ask a woman out, it is because you want her close to you, not maybe. If you ask a woman out, it's on. You must put her on notice of that, "I want you. My intentions are to make you mine and have my way with you." If for whatever reason you allow the woman to get out of having sex with you on encounter 1, she has 1 sole option after that- she must perform sexually. For encounter 2, you will tell a woman, "I look forward to spending the weekend with you." No negotiations. If you get any static, you answer is, "you're either here for a 1 time fuck or you are a solid woman ready for a love affair. Let's get to it."

No kino. You approach a woman upon first meeting to kiss her. Any resistance, you kiss her more forcibly, and you say, "I told you I want you. I'm not gonna hide my feelings."

You do not spend any money on any woman who is not your wife or your girlfriend.
I see where your coming from and I 100% agree on attempting to kiss on the first date, but spending absolutely no money when YOUR the one who asked her out is a little ridiculous. Some girls will accept, but definitely not all.


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No paying for dates, EVER. That means nothing over your $5 soft drink that YOU drank. This is the NATURAL section, as in NATURAL PRIMAL ATTRACTION and direct SEDUCTION, (i.e. "I want you."). No script, no neg, no kino, no tentative nothing. You are the MAN, a GENTLEMAN in public and a MASTER in the bedroom.

A natural only agrees to see a woman (a romantic ENCOUNTER not a date), if he is certain she likes and wants him. If you ask a woman out, it is because you want her close to you, not maybe. If you ask a woman out, it's on. You must put her on notice of that, "I want you. My intentions are to make you mine and have my way with you." If for whatever reason you allow the woman to get out of having sex with you on encounter 1, she has 1 sole option after that- she must perform sexually. For encounter 2, you will tell a woman, "I look forward to spending the weekend with you." No negotiations. If you get any static, you answer is, "you're either here for a 1 time fuck or you are a solid woman ready for a love affair. Let's get to it."

No kino. You approach a woman upon first meeting to kiss her. Any resistance, you kiss her more forcibly, and you say, "I told you I want you. I'm not gonna hide my feelings."

You do not spend any money on any woman who is not your wife or your girlfriend.
I see where your coming from and I 100% agree on attempting to kiss on the first date, but spending absolutely no money when YOUR the one who asked her out is a little ridiculous. Some girls will accept, but definitely not all.
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Don't be a cheap skate, but don't let girls tool you. Find the balance.

Something simple like, ' lets go for a drink sometime, 1st round is on me'

Most quality girls will contribute anyway. I recommend to stick around those girls.

You will lose some amazing girls by the following the 'don't pay for anything' - PUA advice

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I see where your coming from and I 100% agree on attempting to kiss on the first date, but spending absolutely no money when YOUR the one who asked her out is a little ridiculous. Some girls will accept, but definitely not all.
I apologize for not including all of the needed information to make a cogent explanation.
1. PUA. A PUA approaches women to seduce them with his/her charm, suave way, looks, and methods to break absurd acts put on by women- neg, escalation, counter moves, kino, etc. The purpose being to get to the core of why men and women have ever come together- primal sexual desire. Correct? The PUA cuts to the chase with various tactics because he/she resents the gender mind games.

The women sought are not nice girls or fragile creatures. They tend to be gold diggers, shrews, and women the caliber of which are found at a single's bar. If they were nice, thoughtful girls, you wouldn't have to use those techniques. The nice girl is Spiderman's roomate, Ursula, who digs him sincerely and gives him chocolate cake as her opening line. Women in a bar or night club are there for sex. Women anywhere WANT sex.

If one bad girl does not perform on the spot, drop her and move onto the next one quickly. A PUA only has a 3% success rate at best. The cost of paying for "dates" or "drinks" for 100's of women would be frightening. A PUA uses hard earned money to improve himself/herself up, not feed someone's ego.

She should be asking you permission to be YOUR girl, Mr. Cool. She has to qualify herself to you.

2. The natural. The natural gets to it. He/she gives directives, "shut up and kiss me." The natural has sexual magnetism. The natural is a thorough man or woman, a learned combat veteran, whose stripes are deep lines on the forehead and scars discernible only by psychologists. The physical scars are graffiti in comparison.

The natural acts alone. He is cool or hot depending on his origins. The natural conquers.

3. Dating. The AFC, buys into all of the gender games, asks women on conventional dates of dinner, drinks, etc. On a conventional date the male pleads, negotiates, etc, basically shifting power to the female who sells her sexuality to the highest bidder. Correct? There are libraries full of books on this old gender game. Simone de Beauvoir in the "Second Sex," being one of the most prominent radical feminists, criticizes the female exchange of sex for money (gold digging, tricking, etc) and instead proposes the honest exchange of sex for sex between men and women. This is old hat. The AFC buys into the gender mind games, and pays handsomely.

4. Contradictions. We are fed a non-stop barrage of stuff telling us that women are "strong" and "independent." Indeed, they have pressed society rightly for entry into all walks of life as equals to men. They have even, absent the women possessing Olympian physiques, pressed society for entry into professions for which the average sorority cupcake is not qualified physically- fire fighting, police, military, and construction. However, somehow men are allowing themselves to be duped into paying for an interview, i.e. paying $50 for dinner and drinks, on a "date." This is payment for the mere expectancy of sex. Notice that women figure out "we're not a match" only after dinner and drinks, but not before. This is fraud.

At one time men had to pay for dates, because women had no meaningful employment and depended on husbands for their support. There's no purpose for paying for a date for a woman now that she has just as much or more money than you do with her full employment.

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If a PUA is setting up conventional "dates," he is no longer PUA; he is AFC. Here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cITmgWvkvaI Brad is modeling more than just technique, he is modeling the entire context of obtaining sex: finding places where women ALREADY are (bars, clubs, museums, etc), selecting the female, and seducing the woman. There is no paying for the female. The sole cost is HIS price of admission for the into those venues, so he can get to it.

Never go on "cold" interview dates. If you've already met a woman and have her sexually charged, a rendezvous, i.e. an exciting and illicit encounter, should follow. You've already seduced her, and she is already receptive to you, digs you...wants you, yes?

Finally, the PUA creates his social worth. Yes? This includes letting the woman know that he has unlimited suitors chasing him/her and has limited time due to important things to do, because he/she is important. The payment for a conventional date or $12 drink is a symbolic and psychological message that the woman has bargaining power over YOU.

Every woman wants to feel special. News flash- she's not. Not yet. Not until the woman plays a significant role in your life can she be special. She has to earn that kind of special place in YOUR life. However, PUAs are solid, knowing that a love affair is not had on the spot in a chance encounter. Rather, pure sex is sought in that chance encounter, a pick up, not "I do."

You're cool like Mr. Mad Men. Mr. Mad Men, the message should always be in that chance encounter, "I only spend money on my girlfriend or my wife." The ultimate neg from a MAN is not a neg at all; it is the truth.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:07 am 
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Now my question is: How should I re-initiate contact with her, there are a few possibilities:
- I can send her a personal email inviting her to go on the promised dates, minutes after she gets the company's press statement informing her I reached that goal.
- I can forget her all together
- I can send a personal letter to inform her I reached said goal, attach the actual reports and invite her to the agreed dates
- ...
First, never give up.
Work more on the conscious than the subconscious, when you invite her. Invite her, but also suggest something in a playful manner, do some comedy from the email. Anxiety is 4 times more common in women than men.. Keep that all the time in your head. If you time bridge. bridge it to a specific date and time... dont be obscure that just generates anxiety. You are the man..and you lead not her.
Meet her, make her comfortable again in the date and bounce her to your place.


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