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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:48 am 
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Ok guys. I have been having this question in my head for very long. I was born in China and migrated to Singapore since 6. As you guys may or may not know, Singapore is a highly westernized city-state located in Southeast Asia. China is, you know, China.

I have been alternating between these 2 worlds(East and West cultures) since young. One being from my parents and one from Singapore society itself. My birth name is in chinese. And I have been noticing a very strange trend amongst Chinese and Asians in particular is that most of them I know adopt english names. And I know the major reason for this is because it is easier to pronounce in the english speaking world. Of course there are ones who are born with it due to birth in a western country like Bruce Lee which is perfectly. But for the rest is it necessary to adopt english names? Can this seemingly minor phenomenon in Asian cultures explain why Asian men are just not being preferred by women amongst other race. Because they are basically coming from a "I am gonna to please others" angle? That they are actually not proud of their name and hence identity as asians? Maybe that is the reason why Asians are being bullied so much and stereotyped as a "push-over" in western culture?

I want to know, as a budding PUA, what is the right course of action? Should I adopt a english name or continue to use my hard to pronounce chinese name. Frankly, I have been studying chinese/asian culture and it runs contrary to a lot of the principles in attraction. The over-arching theme of confucius emphasizes "harmony" and "obedience" which could not be even further away from developing yourself into an attraction man(reason why asians are stereotyped to be asexual). Of course there are many good thing about confucious culture like an emphasis on education and self-improvement(reason why asian are stereotyped to be so smart?)

Also, surnames of chinese typically puts the surname/family name in front of the given name. Which is a result of putting the family above the self and as you might know, chinese cultures put nation above the family. Hence nation state > family > self. I find it profoundly stupid for nation to come first since it is the individual that makes up the collective.

I know this may not sound like the type of questions you would find here but since I am working on natural game and focusing on being genuine, I have to figure out my cultural interpretation in a world dominated by western cultures and maybe soon to be east. What are your thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Names
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:58 pm 
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Very interesting post, it might sound obvious but it depends on you personally, have you tried chatting up westernized girls and are you embarrassed or ashamed of your real name? I personally think you should be proud of your heritage and use your real name as that's the real you, it doesn't get more natural than that.

However if you are constantly in your head about your real name thinking girls will be too confused etc and its affecting your confidence then maybe try a more westernized name and see if it helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Names
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:18 pm 
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Your game will suffer terribly if you feel uncomfortable with your name or the culture it's associated with. I can attest to that. I was somewhat ashamed of my real name when I started started approaching and introducing myself. Then a realization hit me that my name worth as only as much as I make of it. I don't worry about the stereotypes associated with my culture either - it just makes it that much easier to gauge people's ignorance.

If you are to adopt a nickname, attach a strong, positive image to it. Take it for a spin to see how that works for you.

Al


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:19 pm 
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I am going to be very hard core with my reply here. You will never get anywhere with anything if you have this kind of thought hindering you mind. And I am not talking out of thin air. I am Chinese and I grew up in the UK, so I know exactly where you are coming from.

First of all, with your own background, you have to remember there are a lot of fucked up stuff with the Chinese culture, but there are also good things too. For example confucius also said sex and food are the basic instinct of human being! The modern Chinese culture does suppress sexual feeling in people in a way, but then you should just look at Catholic church, they dont allow people to have sex before marriage!

With the stereotyping shit, that is an extremely self defeating thing, you really need to become liberal and forget about this whole thing. I am well travelled. The most important thing I have learned through travelling is that you cant generalise people, including yourself! Be very open minded, then you will be surprised how many people are intrigued simply by the fact that you are Chinese! I chatted up two german girls who learned to speak very good Chinese and met a Russian girl who exclusively wants to date Chinese guys last year along.

If you think Chinese people are asexual, then you should go out to some nice club in Beijing. There are tons of sexy cool girls and guys looking to fuck each others brain out!

My advise is find out all the positive things about yourself and background and roll with it. A true artist can turn his natural weakness into his advantage!


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Names
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:30 am 
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Hey Fei,

I don't know about Singapore, but in Australia, women, especially Caucasians find Chinese names cool and out of the ordinary. You just have to roll with that. Chances are, if you find a girl who won't date you for your name, she's not worth the time and effort anyhow.

On that note, I'm heading to S'pore. How much white fever do the girls have there? I've been hearing rumours. XD


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