I was thinking about going mall sarging on Friday, and getting some numbers. Next week I'm off from school so I figure I can get some numbers and meet up with some girls next week. A big problem is I don't have a wing, and it seems kind of weird going somewhere like the mall without a wing (I might be able to get a wing, if my friend decides to go though, but I'll have to convince him.) Considering its the Friday before spring break the mall's probably going to be crowded with high school kids and I'll look like a loner if I went by myself.

Any idea on how to sarge alone in the mall?

I figure I could do it alone if I could just get some confidence beforehand.
Any advice?

I'm 15 if that changes any factors.

I think direct game is good for mall, if you say " i know this is random, but i just saw you and thought your style was real unique i had to come talk to you" then ask her name, shake her hand keep good eye contact and say something about surroundings or just ask if she goes to school around here, maybe by after shaking her hand you could say something like "you have real soft hands its hard to keep them moist in the winter everyones sick, especially if you go to college" " im guessing you go to college around here?".

Here's what I used to do.

1. O..MG (confused look on her face), I just had to say hi. *shake hands

2. Don't worry I wasn't looking at you, i was looking at my reflection in the window. *proceed to adjust hair very feminine like, anyway hi.

3. balls..*look at her.. (confused). I wanted to get your attention.

Ive done these by myself. Almost always works as long as you have a good smirk on.

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Alright I know this thread is about a week old and you've prob already been to the mall, but for all you other guys this is how to DOMINATE Mall game.

I'm assuming that you already know all the PUA terms, if not, go and learn them.

1st Dress nice and peacock just a little bit(Only a little). Remember this is daygame, so you need to standout from the crowd but NOT look like a complete idiot.

2nd When approaching, I DO NOT RECOMMEND GOING DIRECT. Save that for clubs and night game guys. Sure, maybe 20% of the time you'll get a girl that gives you a phone number in front of her friends but odds are it's fake. Why? Cause they have shit to do!

By going indirect you can still display loads of confidence while still coming off as genuinely interesting, which is a person a girl would want to see again. And she won't feel bad talking to you because she had a great time instead of being hit on. Which is flattering but, so were the other 20 guys.

Remember Direct=Confidence Indirect=Interesting. If you already have confidence, you don't need to look goofy and go direct. Especially in daygame.

3rd Choose target Rich locations. Shopping malls are rich with girls hanging out and Hired Guns, but no matter what happens, NEVER try and stop a moving target unless you really know what you're doing. That first impression 'creepy' is hard to shake off when you could just go to a store and ask her opinion on something(A much better way.). If you're going through stores browsing, you won't be a creep and a girl will genuinely be interested for at least the first 5 seconds.

4th Watch your body language. In a mall, you usually wont be sitting down when talking to girls. You'll be standing or walking with a girl for 85% of the time like with most daygame. Make sure you do some proper research on how to control your body language because since you'll constantly be on your feet it needs to be 2nd nature to be able to display high value through your movements.

5th Social proof and willingness to walk away = IMPORTANT! It's a mall, it's not a street or a club. You can wander off and come back if you so please, instead of just hovering over her. False time constraints work great as well. More for hired guns than random chicks, by combining these tactics you can have girls fawning over you in minutes. Mainly because its daygame, when they see this is how you roll everyday talking to whomever you please, whenever you please, and about whatever you please and just not giving a fuck if they're working, they will be impressed.

PM me if you have any more questions that need answering.

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i went sarging alone for the first time a month ago.

you might feel like giving up cuz ur just passing by girls alot
but remember the 2 hour rule.

it doesnt matter, as long as you approach before 2 hours your in the right track. build momentum and keep challenging yourself.

it doesnt matter if you go direct or indirect, you should try both. I prefer direct though.
what DOES matter is you get the reference experience when you go in those 2 styles.

its all about the experience and what you learned and what your mistakes are so you can learn more.
dont be scared of losing a girl or getting rejected, theres thousands of girls out there, dont think with a scarcity mindset! think with abundance.

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Yeah I get what you're saying, I figure two hours is to long to only have approached one girl though, especially in the mall, I think five in 2 hours would be like a good amount, and for every one I don't get I'd have to do 5 push ups right there (lets say I only got to talk to 3 girls, then I would have to do 10 push ups) so its kind of a win-win because even if I talked to only a few girls doing the pushups in the middle of the mall would give a confidence boost, and promote that I don't care what people think of me. I don't know how I would do that without a wingman though mall sargings tough enough alone.

I followed your tumblr pua blog too btw

Alright I know this thread is about a week old and you've prob already been to the mall, but for all you other guys this is how to DOMINATE Mall game.

I'm assuming that you already know all the PUA terms, if not, go and learn them.

1st Dress nice and peacock just a little bit(Only a little). Remember this is daygame, so you need to standout from the crowd but NOT look like a complete idiot.

2nd When approaching, I DO NOT RECOMMEND GOING DIRECT. Save that for clubs and night game guys. Sure, maybe 20% of the time you'll get a girl that gives you a phone number in front of her friends but odds are it's fake. Why? Cause they have shit to do!

By going indirect you can still display loads of confidence while still coming off as genuinely interesting, which is a person a girl would want to see again. And she won't feel bad talking to you because she had a great time instead of being hit on. Which is flattering but, so were the other 20 guys.

Remember Direct=Confidence Indirect=Interesting. If you already have confidence, you don't need to look goofy and go direct. Especially in daygame.

3rd Choose target Rich locations. Shopping malls are rich with girls hanging out and Hired Guns, but no matter what happens, NEVER try and stop a moving target unless you really know what you're doing. That first impression 'creepy' is hard to shake off when you could just go to a store and ask her opinion on something(A much better way.). If you're going through stores browsing, you won't be a creep and a girl will genuinely be interested for at least the first 5 seconds.

4th Watch your body language. In a mall, you usually wont be sitting down when talking to girls. You'll be standing or walking with a girl for 85% of the time like with most daygame. Make sure you do some proper research on how to control your body language because since you'll constantly be on your feet it needs to be 2nd nature to be able to display high value through your movements.

5th Social proof and willingness to walk away = IMPORTANT! It's a mall, it's not a street or a club. You can wander off and come back if you so please, instead of just hovering over her. False time constraints work great as well. More for hired guns than random chicks, by combining these tactics you can have girls fawning over you in minutes. Mainly because its daygame, when they see this is how you roll everyday talking to whomever you please, whenever you please, and about whatever you please and just not giving a fuck if they're working, they will be impressed.

PM me if you have any more questions that need answering.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice, anyway I actually didn't go to the mall that day, but how come you don't reccomend going direct in situations like that?I actually think going direct would be better because it's the mall and interactions only going to be short, maybe 5 minutes tops, wouldn't it be smart to go direct and get to the point, then try to build some rapport.

I went to the mall yesterday with a pua I met here.

Basicly i felt my momentum build up after my first approach.

it was 2 set with a bf lol nice hair high 5!!

most approaches i did were very direct and even though I didnt get numbers I had the reference experience
which is what you want instead of numbers or looking for girls to like you which is validation hunting. If you approach it with the right mindset everything is easy.

I approached and gave girls a PUA spin and hugs, most of them were cute or hot and old around 20 and Im only 17. Its hard to tell their age so I ask sometimes.

The most hardest and bravest thing I done yesterday was to go inside a chick store to talk to a perfect 10 tall asian blonde streaked girl. Even though she had a bf the fact that I did it was so fucking liberating! I literary suprised myself about my capabilities!
After that I had a success with 2 sets telling them to take a picture of me and her friend. I got both their numbers on me. It was awesome too and to most ppl that should have been their highlight of the day but if you experienced what I experienced the success of getting the number wasnt as amazing as approaching the hot girl and getting no number.

i dunno how to explain it but i think its going through comfort zone is way more funner and crazy than the end results like numbers.

Good luck dude!

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Ah! I forgot all about this thread. Well first off I'll give poypoy a high five on that HB 10. I know exactly how you feel(Although mine was single!) I constantly use that experience to destroy AA, thinking to myself *Nope, she's not as hot as that one HB* ;D

Anyways, to answer the question asked of me: First off let me say this. The only difference between night and day game is speed. What you have to realize is that you're not at a club or a party when you do day game, everything has to move slower and has to feel natural. You have to observe social norms and calibrate to how the girl reacts waaaay more than you would in a club(Don't even THINK about cavemanning in the day unless your rapport is super strong!)So with that said there's no point going direct, because the truth is you will NEVER find a girl that will makeout with you easily in the day(Unless she's a super slut! Quality vs Quantity). You have to get her invested in what you're saying, and there's no way that laying your cards out in front of her will get her to chase you (Because you just told her she doesn't have to)

2nd, this is called 'The game' for a reason, because it's all a number game. There is no perfect scenario, you are just dealt a hand and you play it. The trick is to be versatile and be able to make the most of any situation. Yeah she might have to go and run some errands but you prove to her that talking to you is waaay more worthwhile. That's why I reccomend going indirect, you can be flexible as fuck. I'm not going to argue why YOU shouldn't go direct, but i'll give you my (Tested) opinionated reasons on why they are horrid for daygame.

-There is no shortcut in day game. Period. Going direct is not some magical pill that keeps you out of the friendzone, in fact if you screw it up you'll end up in the *This guy wanted to rape me, I know it.* zone

-You give her an ultimatum. Here she is, minding her own business, then BAM. You tell her you think she's adorable. So in her head, she now has to decide whether she's attracted to you or not. She doesn't even know anything about you, all she has to go on is your approach. It's a 50/50 shot for us, Yes or no, she's either impressed or she's not. Even if she is impressed though, that doesn't mean she's going to hop on your dick. You still have to do work, it's day game after all and you still need to show the kind of guy you are without making her feel uncomfortable.

-It's just...bad social calibration. Women want to be wooed and romanced when all is said and done, swept off their feet and struck by cupids arrow. In a club, they don't fucking care, they want to get drunk and have fun. But when they're out in the day they see a chance for something unexpected to happen. Direct may SEEM to get this job done, but really it's just a crude arrow compared to the seducing hook that is indirect.

No matter what method you choose though, the overall structure is really always the same:

Open>Neg>DHV>Qualify>Instant date>Build comfort

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