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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:32 am 
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For the past few months ive gone out to bars
With a few friends of mine. at one bar my game is usually just stay at the dance floor anr try n dance on some girl. Ive had a feww succesful dances but i leave home empty handed :/ i usually go with one of my co workeers and this guy is a beast. He doesnt care he opens any girl. Yesterday, he opened this 2 set called me over and introduced me to this bequtiful asian girl.
Thing is i dont know what to say!!!! Or talk about. My mind goes blank!!! And its frustrating!&!
Im a fare decent guy i could get laid like crazy i just dont know how to talk to gils.
I usually just try and make them laugh and i feel like i over kill it. Idk i feel like a turtle going deeper and deeper withins its shell with all these nights of failure.

Idk its wied bcuz i can get numbers i just cant pull the trigger so i know i can get some attraction. Also, i got this really attractive waitress numbe a few months ago i just couldnt seal the deal again. Idk if she wants the D or im being friens zoned lol
I sat way in the back and she kept approaching my table talking to me being flirtatious and even my friends noticed saying " she wamts the D" she even told me to make an instragram and add her and to text her..so idk if this is genuine or whes just pulling my chain. Before i left i went up to her gave her a huge hug m spinnee her around lol

So guys, any advice and cristicism will be more than welcome.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:26 am 
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You're too needy (women can sense it) work on your self-confidence & self-esteem, find a good book, program, or coach... If needed I can recommend a book for you.

Besides that work on your conversation tactics and learn to be a sexual guy who can escalate.

Opening doesn't have to be complicated with self-confidence it all falls into place.

Each topic holds a bit of a slope but worth learning and very necessary.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:33 am 
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You have PLENTY to say.. you just care too much about saying the RIGHT thing..

There is no right thing, just say whatever pops in your head with authority. .

Uhh dont want people to think im spamming but this article covers this too lol

http://www.watchmeliveforever.com/2013/ ... hot-girls/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:08 am 
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Thats the thing my mind goes blank! Lol


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:20 am 
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You cant get crazy laid if you dont know how to talk to girls.

Dont compare yourself to him but do take advice and ask him questions.
Ur lucky you have a wingman or friend thats really good.

Let him teach you and learn from him and apply it to ur style and personality and you will get laid like crazy.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:30 am 
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I dont think the problem is you not being able to talk to girls. The problem may be you not showing what you want from the people you try to interact with.

Try opening people in general. Go interact with females you are not interested in with confidence and give them a chance to speak to you. You will see how the interactions developes and how they become attracted.

I open with any type of stupid stuff that I get into my mind to get a conversation going.

People that have problems like you should focus on how to not give a fuck. If you feel attracted to a girl you interact with show it.

Your interations with every girl will not go as you would want it to go. As a natural you are "selling" yourself so go show what you are like. This means girls will reject you and you will reject them.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:58 am 
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For the past few months ive gone out to bars
With a few friends of mine. at one bar my game is usually just stay at the dance floor anr try n dance on some girl. Ive had a feww succesful dances but i leave home empty handed :/ i usually go with one of my co workeers and this guy is a beast. He doesnt care he opens any girl. Yesterday, he opened this 2 set called me over and introduced me to this bequtiful asian girl.
Thing is i dont know what to say!!!! Or talk about. My mind goes blank!!! And its frustrating!&!
Im a fare decent guy i could get laid like crazy i just dont know how to talk to gils.
I usually just try and make them laugh and i feel like i over kill it. Idk i feel like a turtle going deeper and deeper withins its shell with all these nights of failure.

Idk its wied bcuz i can get numbers i just cant pull the trigger so i know i can get some attraction. Also, i got this really attractive waitress numbe a few months ago i just couldnt seal the deal again. Idk if she wants the D or im being friens zoned lol
I sat way in the back and she kept approaching my table talking to me being flirtatious and even my friends noticed saying " she wamts the D" she even told me to make an instragram and add her and to text her..so idk if this is genuine or whes just pulling my chain. Before i left i went up to her gave her a huge hug m spinnee her around lol

So guys, any advice and cristicism will be more than welcome.
A couple things...

1. Stay away from the dance floor- Dancing with girls is not pick-up. That is slapping your dick around like a drunk fool lol Dance floors are the worst places to be. They are loud and you usually end up pecking your head. You might as well walk away if you start doing that. Your set is over. Stay around the bar but don't get drunk.

2. Realize PUA is an art form- Getting laid is the end result. If you are going to practice shitty game in order to get laid, you are not a pick-up artist. See every interaction as a learning experience and the sex will come as a result. Learn and understand each step and how to trigger emotions through out the interaction. Sex is at the end... not the beginning. If you go out seeking it, girls will feel that vibe coming from you instantly. You are not going to have sex with her at a bar. So don't talk to her like you are having sex with her at the bar. You being blatantly ignorant to her emotions, hammering through set after set, hoping you eventually "get lucky" is not solid game.

3. If you are losing conversation (I know this probably sounds like something you hear all the time) don't think so much. The pick up part only needs to last for the first 10 to 20 minutes. Then you switch it off. Have hobbies (besides pick up) that are interesting to women and have interesting stories about it. There is tons of information out there on the internet for you to Google some quick information that women will find interesting. This will allow you to show your personality and DHV through stories with out bragging like a dick head and it will give a girl an opportunity to express herself. As you develop, you will notice that women will actually be shy around you. Once you understand the emotions you are triggering, you will be able to make almost any woman FEEL that you are a high value man and she will want to impress YOU.

4. Be more observant- Pay attention to guys who are good. Watch their mannerisms and find a way to mimic them in your own way. The key to naturally having people feel your presence is to stand out from all the rest. I feel that peacocking takes things a bit too far in a normal bar, however, I say LOAD THE FUCK UP on accessories. Women love 'em. It's like the more, the merrier. If you are a shy type of person, this will give women things to talk to you about. Find accessories that have meaning behind them to YOU though so if a girl calls you out on wearing some crazy bracelet or whatever, you are ready to fight back. Don't feed off other peoples compliments is what I always suggest when you present your avatar. Be your own person. (Personally... My style is a mix of Criss Angel and T.I. with a splash of Ari Gold at times.)

5. Being funny is good- Being a clown is not. Because you are making girls laugh does not mean they are attracted to you. The good thing with laughter, however, is it pumps up buying temperature and you can get away with MAD kino escalation. Use the laughter as a distraction and as long as you are being playful funny and not stupid funny, you will be able to get away with pretty much whatever you want. (AND KINO IS WHAT WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF THE FUCKIN FRIEND ZONE IF YOU AREN'T A PUSSY AND ESCALATE) Learning and understanding comfort levels I feel is 90% of being a great pick-up artist. Once you understand that, the things you are saying really don't mean too much.

6. Numbers aren't everything- Numbers actually mean nothing unless you have mutual attraction established, you are 1 of probably 5 guys, atleast, that asked her for her phone number that day. Girls give out their phone numbers ALLLLLL the fucking time because they LOVE the attention. Do you want a girl friend or a texting buddy? Again, work on building up your game and understanding emotions and THEN worry about what that phone number means.

I know there are people out there who say APPROACH, APPROACH, APPROACH... But if you just keep doing the same approach, open, number close, hope I can get her to have sex with me, you will eventually give up because it doesn't work that way... Or because you had sex with some cum dumpster who's vagina has its own local check-in point on Facebook. WORK ON YOUR FUNDAMENTALS.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:31 pm 
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First off, I never dance with a chick as a way to build attraction. 2nd I hope you use better grammar with your text game.

Be loose, say whatever comes to your mind. It is not what you say, it is how you say and the body language you portray. It also seems like you need to build some self-confidence.


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