okay i will talk a little bit about myself

i read style's book and watched 2 seasons of the VH1 series.

the way how mystery's students get a no.close/kiss close amazed me at that time.

i was treating mystery's method as the holy grail.

routines does help me a lot, especially in day game.

but it doesn't help me on the some practical situations (dancefloor, gaming women within social circle, competing with guys that are extremely tall or persistant....)

i started direct approach recently, and it works pretty well.

so i guess it's essential to be natural while picking up women.

any comments??

Both work very well. However both have a very different kind of mindset.

Old school routine stack came from a value based mindset and nature have a emotional based mindset.

Thinking vs Feeling. A hard decision, the first one you probably come off really trustworthy and the second one you are likable. However the key to both method is to escalate the interaction. So both have the same goal, to make her react to you. old school is to prove that you are a higher value guy and she should invest in you and natures is to be unreactive to her reality and win the frame war. So she's investing in you because you just doesnt give a f***.

I guess the key point is to show intent, some people call it sexual escalation, some people call it flirty and some people use qualification.

_________________
My Journal the-journey-of-a-reborn-man-vt133974.ht ... t=montreal
Product suggest:
Tao of badasses
http://07b0arlan72v7oazr1e9jz5m8c.hop.clickbank.net/

Mystery and Style are talkers, they don't dance. That's why dancefloor game, like Skills360s stuff, works much better for night game than does Mystery Method. I mean c'mon, how in the hell are you going to do the cube in a loud club?

It's not really about being natural per se. It's just about having solid game, and perfecting your chosen method.

_________________
“Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'!” ~Audrey Hepburn

I think that natural game comes from an enhanced understanding of yourself. As you get your inner game more and more together, natural game, just becomes... well natural.

Inner game comes from cultivating your own personal charisma. I think that everyone has an innate personality archetype tendency. The key is in really understanding the truth about yourself deep down, and then take that understanding of yourself and decide how to present it in a way which is attractive.

Presentation counts for everything, content counts for very little. If you're a total nerd, but you present it well... girls will dig it. If you're a lazy stoner, but you present it well, I've seen some movies where the stoner character is fricken hilarious. And girls will dig that. Natural game just comes form understanding your core qualities and presenting yourself in a way which is congruent and confident.

I think that routine-based game is really best for the sake of learning and observing response ... which teaches you social dynamics. Eventually I think natural game is... well, optimal, and it's probably somethign that you will progress to.

I wouldn't worry about learning natural game, it just comes... naturally, as you learn more and more about yourself and pickup.

_________________
My Blog: http://BecomingPUA.com My Facebook Page: http://facebook.com/becomingpua

This has to be one of my favorite posts! And on top of thats its also very helpful topic for newbies. Thanks a lot for informative information!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Estetik