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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:14 pm 
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Hello :)

So far i've had a good success with women, but I mostly pulled girls that I saw are interested in me. I rarely went to them and was direct, mostly tried to create attraction first by playing a little hard to get and not showing interest in them. But I've been thinking of being more direct. Something like going up to them and saying that they are a person that got most of my interest in the room, so I want to find out if their personality fits me. I think it shows confidence, gives girl a sign that you are interested while at the same time showing you do not care for looks and challenges them to earn you through what they are.

What are your thoughts/experinces/critics on this?

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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:50 pm 
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Something like going up to them and saying that they are a person that got most of my interest in the room, so I want to find out if their personality fits me. I think it shows confidence, gives girl a sign that you are interested while at the same time showing you do not care for looks and challenges them to earn you through what they are.
I think the bold statements contradict eachother, unless you have a valid reason to think the girl's interesting (if you heard her speak or saw her do something). Otherwise you'd still be walking up to her because of her looks.
Also, a fitting personality is such a broad concept that with any girl reasons can be found why your personalities don't fit. I think it's better to narrow it down to a specific attribute which you find interesting, and you can be direct about that.


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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:57 am 
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It might sound a little odd in english, sounds pretty good in my language. But yeah probably better to narrow the personality down to one or few attributes. Well obviously you went up to her because of her looks, but i ment to create the vibe ''you're good looking, but beauty is common, so what more do you have in for me to make me want to hook up with you''. Basically what I'm wondering is, is that kind of vibe connected with strong and confident body language attractive to girls, or should you be more indirect until you've created enough attraction?

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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:15 am 
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more than 3 girls in lounge/bar/club

1. I walk up to them looking directly at them (3second rule veery important, never stalk around)

2. I position my self fully toward them and look each one in the eye while raising my hand to get them silent
(like scanning each one, trying to choose)

3. After looking each one I go for the girl I like "Hey , my name is aza" and position my hand for handshake.
(smile and dont say or do anything until she shakes your hand. and she will try to take her hand after TINY handshake. dont let her hand go, play her hand with your thumb)

4. have real decent conversation, no DHV/routines/negg . Compliment her... and only look into her eyes. forget about her friends and she will forget it too.

5. Her friends will be very pissed off and throw all kinda shit. so dont react to them or try to defuse them.
and never put little bit emotion too them ! (little bit reaction to those girls always kills it)

mostly I tell those girls

"hey, dont be that girl."
"hey, becareful... another word and we will not gonna invite you to our wedding!" (put arm around the girl)
"hey, stop cockblocking us"

and most brutal situation

"hey, HEY! I'm sober as hell and I like your friend. I really wanna get to know your friend so PLEASE (command)
give me a chance. OKAY? (also command)

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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:49 am 
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in my experience i go direct cuz its fast and its good if done with confidence.
if you go weak and direct your not ready.

and i dont try to be a jerk saying what else do u have than good looks.

I try to make them feel special with a compliment but never more than once or else your giving her social power.

then i usually give them a high 5 for kino and say something wierd get them to laugh then close.

if i fail i can be happy knowing that i made someone feel better in their day complimenting them.
if i win then i can be happy making new friends.

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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:41 pm 
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When I'm not feeling like fucking around or don't have a reason/want to hang around for a little bit I'll often apocolypse. However when I don't it's pretty simple and pretty direct, basically I do this:

Eye contact- Unwaivering eye contact hold it. When she looks away, then looks back and your still looking at here eyes, you just built ridiculous amounts of attraction.

Open- I generally say "Hey" and may throw out something situational, but I'll usually just say something to the effect of "Your adorable" Then introduce myself.

Intro- I like to hold out my hand because at least in the US it's extremely common to shake hands with people when you meet them and it both starts your physical escalation and gets you into her space. Also some girls, more often if you had really good eye contact when you were walking to her, won't pull their hand away. If they don't pull there hand away don't pull yours away. If she pulls her hands away no big deal, if she doesn't your so far ahead of the game it's crazy, very good chance to make out or bounce her in as little as 5 minutes.

Get in her space- You want to be close to her, this lets her smell you, feel your energy and it communicates sexual attraction on a sub conscious level. If she stays in the space in very close proximity to you, on a sub conscious level her mind will associate that she is sexually attracted to you as well and she will be very quickly regardless of if she was initially or not.

From there it's pretty simple IMO, if she pulled her hand away and moved away from you, throw an over compliment out in the middle of the conversation and touch her again, on the hand or arm preferably. Something like "Your fucking sexy, my god I can hardly control myself".

If at that point she still won't let you have her hand or her space then leave, if she does take control, take her hand and isolate. Once your isolated then escalate and close.

Pretty much same thing holds true for both night and day game, only really difference IMO is the size of her space. You want to get much closer much faster during night game, so because it takes a little longer to get comparable spacing from her during the day it takes a little longer... by a little longer I'm still talking no more then 5-10 minutes and aiming for 2-3 minutes for day game before closing or bouncing. The other differnece IMO is that I've found it generally more effective to #-close and/or insta-date during the day vs. k-close and pull her to your place at night.

If you do insta-date from the day game though make sure to continue escalating and go for the pull back to your place sometime during the date (usually 30min-2hrs)


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 Post subject: Re: Going direct
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:11 pm 
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I'd say: "You seem to be the most interesting person in the room." and leave it at that. No reason to add in "Let's see if you are interesting enough to talk to me..." or whatever. Besides, it's just an opener. You still need the entire rest of your routine in order to close her. You could say, "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is my favorite movie...Hi, I'm Mark." and it could work just as well as an opener. The point being, it's just an opener.

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