| just drop the need to be logical, you can talk about absolutely illogical left field topics that have nothing to do with anything and make absolutely no coherent sense, as long as you like the topic and are enjoying it, and you are leading and they are willing to follow, chances are they will grasp onto the emotional context of your thread, rather then the content and just go with it, there is always something you can point out about the environment or the people you are talking to them selves, or just random incoherent nonsense from day to day life
for example, one night I was starting conversations about pinocchio and what would happen if he said ''my nose is going to grow right now'', what would he like explode or something?, then you just pre-face and frame your illogical shit with qualifiers such as, ''I know this is so weird and random, but...'' for what ever reason people just seem to accept this socially awkward shit, as long as you acknowledge what you are doing and show some social intelligence giving them a justification to follow along
or sometimes when you can get bored and are stuck, just play fuck, marry, kill or something, or you can tell the people you are talking to, ''hey lets play the bully game, and we will say rude shit about other people, because putting other people down.... makes you.... feel better about your self *smile*'' then use your empathy to sense how they feel about that, and if they are feeling it, continue, ok, I'll go first.. you see that guy, wtf is up with that guy?.... he looks kinda like hes.... and continue, what ever suits your style, what ever you find enjoyable at the time that brings fun to you and those around you
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