I've always been a natural with women. I don't believe that most guys need to recite routines in order to make women interested in them. What I do is get the girl to do the talking. Ask her questions about herself and make her commit to the interaction. Being natural is simply being a high value guy and communicating this by the way you speak to women. You don't need tricks and DHV's to attract women. You just need confidence and courage.

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Whilst that is true for some people, the vast majority do need assistance in how to get girls. If you are a true natural then its no problem

I think the point of this post is simple to remind guys that if you are confident you would be a lot less dependent on routines and lines. Being yourself is easy, it's all about become your “Best self” and not having to rely on a routine to pick up girls.

What is natural? The natural possesses a semantic understanding and implementation of the cultural and social display rules that bind their group together. This would make it look like things are flowing smoothly since the knowledge of culture and language of your target market will mesh the interaction easier. Naturals don’t realise that their material is also predictable; we have a tendency to create rules of thumb to deal with typical interactions. It’s just the human nature of adaptability to use our resources as scarcely as possible. Some reactions are automatic saving energy to be used on awareness of the environment predicting what’s happening next weather it is aversive or appetitive. To come up with pre-empt verbal (or physical) blocks and strikes to keep the ball rolling.

What’s making it feel natural is that this material was learned in the scene and not constructed at home or online. We have a tendency to recall what we have learned better if it was context and state dependent during acquisition. Creating the material during pick up will be easy to access when we are in that particular context again (not necessarily with the same girl). I’m suggesting that naturals are routine they just didn’t write it down and they practiced it in the field as soon as it was created.

Using a routine is good, but when the culture shifts in another direction it won’t be long before the routine is obsolete. Sometimes people can tell when it sounds too generic, it’s good to update your material to what’s relevant in the pop culture scene or whatever your niche is. It’s what the good comedian’s do they are always up to date, and they are writers- you can’t tell me they don’t have game? Naturals beware you can fall in this trap too. If you are a natural, think about how many times you use the same come backs because you are hearing the same responses from the ladies? Be the predictor not predictable I don’t’ care if you’re natural or scripted.

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What's wrong with using the same comebacks? That means she's using the same shit-tests and she has the originality problem. Besides, she doesn't have tape of your last 50 approaches and if she was studying the latest pua moves on Youtube (which she's not) she will judge you by your congruence, not your originality. On top of that all the pua coaches say, women love that they teach pua. She would probably be impressed by pua skills, intrigued and view you as a challenge.

The best advice I've gotten lately is to lower my standards. It allows me to be more natural, to feel free to say something--but not the NEED to say something either. 'Be comfortable with silence' is good advice, too and goes with lowering your standards. If this seems weird think about the AFC who sits in the corner like a creep for half an hour thinking of the perfect thing to say and then says something try hard, placating and unoriginal. Having lower standards allows me to be more comfortable, confident, no matter in any situation--which is the key to natural game. Lower standards for material also makes it easier to approach and shows her you're not trying to impress her. It's not what you say it's what you convey.

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Toxic, most people aren't true naturals, I sure as shit wasn't. Natural game isn't about being great with women from Day 1, its about being you. Your right when you say most guys need help. So get it. Learn natural game, listen to those who are your elders, really hear it when I say that routines and shit can help but you don't need them. You have to learn to just go up to a girl and, with total confidence, speak and make her want you. Combine other methods too, I combined Gamblers stealth into my game because I felt it expressed me. I love being in close, and I listened to and watched stuff by RSD which grew my confidence and made me realize that all I have to do is be me. In my case, confident and sexual, and I am set. So go give it a try, sample some RSD material or Gamblers newer natural series. It might just help.
(And yes Rod you are right, congruence is a big part of it too, see his comment because he talks about it more in depth, sorta a bridge between most peoples conceptions of natural and not, real man right there)

Rox

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In my opinion:

Natural game is just about, self expression. Thinking outloud is your conversation done. Being clear with your intentions and not hiding it from anyone. Not being afraid to escalate because that is what you want to do.

Really most naturals or guys who use natural game use routine? That is not at all the truth with the naturals I know. They have fun and joke in each situation, the girl is just there to witness it. Do they have similar escalation routines, somewhat but building attraction is just them being themselves.

I practice a very natural game and I have to say, I use no routines. I don't repeat anything. I am myself, I attract attention, I recognize sent attraction. Should I choose I capitalize on the initial attraction. This is a form of natural game but by no means is it a routine. I am who I am and I have fun, this attracts attention, I've worked very hard to have a body language that has presence.

If you think body language escalation is routine, well that is obvious, anyone who has studied courtship would know that. You should have a ton of tools in your cabinet and use them in the proper situation rather than overuse the same one over and over.

I agree with the other poster natural game is all about confidence, and being the most attractive you. You should also learn to read women and know what to do to escalate the situation, this is why experience is so valuable when it comes to natural game.

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i would have to agree, that a natural needs to be very knowledgeable about cultural information. Still, i think there may be another type of natural? Could a natural seducer be actually moderately quiet, and express his value trough actions? or maybe that just another category

Cheers

Personally my best routines are the ones in which I think of them on the spot. Especially the ones where you open up your emotions and let her dive into your world. Talking stuff about your passions, desires and what not.

Luckily im a hopeless romantic and have alot of awesome passions ;]

But yeah natural game is what really makes you get the girls in love with you. The social dynamics bit is just a little help [big help].

Correct! Confidence and Know your limitations too..

I do agree with this however I do think that it does help to see how other people are doing what you have been doing and maybe getting some ideas from it. Even if you are a natural, there's always room for improvement.

Natural game cant be learned anyway, it's natural.

if you are not charasmatic, interesting, funny, you wont attract.

Some people are born with magnetic personalities, they are the ones everybody hoovers around at a party, they dont have to do anything because that is who they are.

So whats the solution right. You study these magnets and ask yourself why they attract a crowd and why they have charisma, and you may find some patterns.

Most find they can desrcibe why some people attract people, but they are not able to do it themselves.

Just as not everybody can throw a pitch 95 mph, not everybody can throw a football 70 yards on a fly, not everybody can be a magnetic personality.

All that one can do is learn to come out of your shell, and interaact and socialize as best you can, you will be better off than before, but you may never be a great magnetic force.

Of course being a natural is effortless.

If you're already a natural.

Naturals aren't calculating a million things at a time. They just have a mindset that's allowed them to succeed, and gives them the confidence to succeed further.

For everyone else, they have bad habits that have killed their game, and what's worse, they probably have low confidence from their lack of success.

It's hard enough to flip a confidence switch. Imagine I successfully talked someone into believing they're amazing with women, and then they went out and still did the same stupid stuff as before. I doubt that confidence would last.

That's why people like routines. If only as a starting point.

We can all say that natural game is "all up to you" but that would be putting more reward on yourself than the journey any naturalist been through.

Take in example a young cub. Yeah, eventually he's gonna become a muscled powerhouse of the African planes with the power to snap bone with a flex of his jaws. To a point where killing is natural. But how does he get there?

ROUTINES. He does the same exact thing (playing with other cubs and hunting smaller animals) until he become so fluent that he doesn't need em. Or a better example, let's say a Recruit who eventually becomes a Solider. Shit like that just doesn't happened cause he has confidence in himself to be a natural killer. Fuck no. He practiced non stop until he perfected his crafts.

All I'm saying is that Natural Game, to me, is a higher level of enlightenment. No some hidden power. Yeah, you may have it but it takes practices and routines drilled into your head in order for you to master PU

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