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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Hi,

I have an awesome connection with a girl :), but I feel I am going to be friendzoned. How can I avoid this and how can I plan a second date with her? First time was awesome. I want to date her over about 3 weeks. What is the best way for getting her in the mood for that and ask her? She said yes sometimes, but she is doubting. She was doubting the first time. But I feel there is something between us.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:15 am 
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as has been said many times in this forum, the best way to head off friend zoning is to raise attraction/escalation/sexuality and lower rapport.

Basically the flip side of how you de-ecalate the creeper vibe or buyers remorse.


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Can you give an example and some more explanation? Look, we are talking for almost all the evening, and she doesn't want me to go. Do I then have to put her on? Or what should I say? Or when having a normal conversion, how can I turn it sexually without having her noticing it?


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Or when having a normal conversion, how can I turn it sexually without having her noticing it?
Now you are talking about one one of my specialties. I use conversational escalation more effectively then actual physical escalation.

I use what I call "ISF" or "introducing the sexual frame", this is easier then you think, because woman are emotional creatures that get state externally, much more then logical/thoughtful guys who internalize moods mostly regardless of outside cues. This was a huge revelation for me when I figured this out and my game went up exponentially.

So whats a innocuous way to turn a woman with at least minimal interest on? Well turn the convo sexual but not directly. So you can tell an antidote of some sexual escapade that happened to your "friend" or other third person. A more effective way is to tell a story relating to yourself in the past which included these elements

1. Hot girl(s) pursing you just for sex
2. you having high standards and wanting something more then meaningless sex
3. Your love of , robust orgasms, and languid, salacious, prolonged, physical intimacy

basically mix elements of pure sexuality with, high standards, pre-selection, abundance, social proof etc. As long as you make it a mixed story with disparate elements it will sound 100% true.

If this is too creative and difficult for you then just escalate physical contact with her and hope for the best. Even outright rejection is better then the friend zone.


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