can anyone that knows tell me what I said wrong? why she didn't reply?

this is on facebook.. I got this girl talking where the previous message she didnt answer. I recently just started doing this online but when I try to do it in person its hard to think of what to say, I have to work on that.


shes a HB9

ME :
hey, how did your holidays go?

Christmas used to be my favorite time of the year but it sucks now compared to the memories I had growing up. I remember one time when I was young I woke up to a white christmas, I looked out the window and my little eyes just lit up seeing everything covered in snow, especially the trees, its a beautiful scene if you picture it but you forget how cold it is outside.

HER:
hey it went pretty good...howd it go for you? did you get everything you wanted? but yes i know what you mean...i miss being a kid. christmas was so much better back then. its very different now


ME:
those were magical times, especially opening presents and getting what you want, I knew I wasnt going to get anything I wanted so I bought myself a hdtv, nintendo wii and a blu ray player.. I been admiring these things for a while so I made myself happy.

I miss being a kid too, those times were fun and having no responsibilities was the best part of it. I remember being able to wear pajamas all day and no one saying anything and having no where to go. it's like you had no worries in the world and everything revolved around that day.

did you generate some type of previous attraction that she is invested in this interaction? are you just assuming she wants to chat with you for no purpose?

I agree we need to know more about the initial interaction. There is info we need to know about the attraction that exists between you and them, how much interaction you guys have had together.

I will say your conversation sounds self centered. It sounds like you are looking for things to say and trying a bit to hard. Looking for ways to stimulate emotion in a conversation. That works well when you already have them hooked but in this case you don't. She isn't hooked into this conversation.

Stop using I, and move more towards using YOU. You are the person talking about yourself the whole time. Let me rewrite your message so it speaks more to her.



Those were magical times, especially opening presents and getting what you want, I was greedy got myself some of the things I wanted this year. You know how it is, you want something and you know no one will get you get so you grab that guilty pleasure for yourself. What about you, did you grant yourself a Christmas gift?

I miss being a kid so much, you got to just have fun all day and having no responsibilities was the best part of it. You remember being able to wear pajamas all day and no one saying anything and having no where to go? It was like you had no worries in the world and everything revolved around that day. Is that what your holidays were like?


You left her no openings at all. You didn't ask questions, you just rambled on.
Talking about you the whole time. How did what you say evoke conversation? How did you get her to smile?

Always remember it isn't the message you intend to say that arrives, it is how the message is deciphered that arrives.

I'm gonna give you some good tips on E- game.

1. Make sure that you evoke conversation. This is the biggest problem with most guys. Most guys don't say things worth answering. Your message while sweet sure didn't evoke any conversation.

2. Say unexpected things that will make them smile, everyone says hey sweetie how are you, or hey beautiful. I was sitting with two of my hot friends and they were reading me somethings guys send. It sounds sweet, and they are comments you can use with a high attraction, or with relationships, but not good to open game with. You need to joke have fun, get them to actually have a conversation.

3. Tap into previous jokes, if you know something made them smile or shared a moment with someone look to revisit that moment. You will remind them why they liked you. Most girls need to be reminded why they liked you, so remind them about when you guys met and why they wanted to stay in contact with you.

4. Remember what they said and ask about it again. With texts, facebook, email, you can see the history of the conversation to help you remember. If you remember talking about anything with them, going to a party, playing a game, test, whatever, ask them about it. Recently I asked a girl about how her mother's birthday was. Things like that show you took a personal interest and it helps them revisit the positive emotion they had at that moment(when she enjoyed a happy moment with their parents on their birthday in this case).

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initial attraction : the whole school knows I'm learning how to talk in statements and so does she. she said she would leave her bf because her bf doesnt look like I do.

I'm pretty good looking but I don't know how to talk to girls.

there were other interactions but this one was trying to use statements.

When speaking through text I usually just have one sentence replies, and never more than 3 sentences. It's ok to ignore most of what she says, and reply to just one of the threads.
The biggest turning point in my game came when I started to use assumptions. Statements are key, but it's assumptions in particular that really affect people.

Eg. of what I would have said: "Happy Xmas. Let me guess, GHD, new phone and a camera."
You'll either be right (usually right about some of it), or else they'll tell you what they did get.

You're giving her so much information when you write more than a couple of short sentences. I used to think that was a good thing. Really though, and it's SO obvious through text, you're investing too much.

When I'm asked what I got I'll say something like "a bag of coal and an hour alone with Mrs Clause" or anything really, it's not important or worth dwelling on unless she's genuinely interested. Don't dwell on yourself in conversation.

Just remember, only talk about yourself when she asks you a question. Keep it brief. Get the conversation back about her ASAP. To emotionally effect her, make assumptions, the crazier the better. Also, little tip, rarely use question marks (even when you are asking a question) and keep smilies for special occasions

Thanks Pinocchio! one of the useful posts I got so far

No problem. Don't be afraid to take the assumptions even further. If she says she did get a camera then that's an alley you can take your assumptions down, "you'll be the hottest thing in your bird watching club".

Anything you know or don't know about her you can just make guesses. They don't all have to be humorous. Women never get offended when you're wrong, and if you are wrong, it prods them to tell you the real story, and it also makes them curious about why you think so.

Don't be afraid to disagree with them either. If she [hypothetically] denies being a country girl you could say "You're not a country girl? no way... I can totally see you out on the farm, up every morning with the sound of the rooster. In for a bowl of porridge then at noon, after you feed the horses. Hey, give me back my daylight savings hour!"
^that example is quite long, and I probably wouldn't go that deep through text, but you get the idea. It can also be used as callback humor later when you meet, "how's my farm lady?"

I will point out that I think that too much text game is a bad thing. Mainly because it builds up a bubble of fun inside the texting, when you meet it's hard to translate. I usually just stick to 3 or 4 messages and then I'm out. It's so effective when you come in and give a girl that wave of fun and then disappear. When you meet again it's easy to pick up in person where you left off.

Really, why no question marks? I don't get that one, great info, but I don't understand how question marks help or hurt.

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Woman think with emotions, not like their logical brains like guys do,Because when you ask questions it turns on their logical brains and they stop talking.

when woman talk, they don't ask questions, they naturally talk in statements so when a guy does this (in a specific way) they think "wow, this guy knows how to talk to me"

this is what happens to me, I went into interview mode and they didnt want to talk to me.

this is how you talk to them, in statements, not with routines, palm readings etc.

I would agree with most of this, but the reason is who has the frame of qualifier and qualifiee. I always find that I maintain compliance and qualification of Her in the text, and thus maintain my prize-ability. If we switch the convo to her, now she is the prize and she is inherently less interested as now you are pursuing her.
I completely agree with the first half of this sentence and disagree with the second half. When you ask questions, and normally AFC's ask supplicating and visibly silly questions, to gain rapport, the girl normally becomes much less interested in the interaction as you are now trying too hard.
Exactly so, interview mode = try hard for rapport.

I just wanted to let you know that when you write the quoted messages you look like a giant vagina. "magical" "white christmas" should not be used by a man. Her response was more manly then what you wrote. I kinda see what you were trying to do with creating the image, but the outcome was very girly. When I read them I thought "wow that's pretty gay conversation to be having with a chick"

thats why I'm trying to learn this technique, its very powerful because I seen it in action.

Seriously, how the hell are we any different in regards to emotion? A girls brain is different then a males brain, study science you will realize this. However, men are inhibited by their emotions just as much and as often women. Approach Anxiety is a great example of how we let out emotions think, this is a great example of fear.

This is a sexist quote, I suggest you seriously change your outlook on women. Some men are far more illogical then women, hell look at half the texts they send out. Look at how we are approaching women with scripts, we hide behind them how the hell is that logical behavior? Lying about who we are, what we have done, is that really logical? We rationalize our fears by acting like each and every girl is as replaceable as a pair of shoes, when we know every human being is irreplaceable. Is that really rational?

Not just women or just men, people think with their emotions and how they feel about things, read How We Decide, it talks about how people make decisions by how they feel.

It is very disappointing when I read things like this, especially since I can look through 90% of these threads and see what emotion is behind every person writing a message. For instance the OP let his insecurities and fear opened this thread, he was afraid to do anything that could mess it up with a girl.

Another thread I was in was how to ask for head, that one was made out of frustration. I mean everything every human does is in coordination with their emotion. Another thread had to do with a guy blowing up on his ex, a sign of anger, then he came on here to ask about it, a form of anxiety/fear.

I can go on and on about how in a lot of ways we are far more illogical then women in some ways. In other ways we take the cake, but don't sit here and act like men think in a better way then women, when in reality you even being on this forum proves you think with your emotion.[/quote]

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because its true...? ask them just like I did..ask them if they talk in statements and they will say yes.. I didn't believe it at first but I kept asking.

People who really know what I'm trying to learn are private messaging me and telling me what I said wrong, because they know THIS is how you really talk to woman, not routines or gimmicks which 90% of the material on here is a joke.

real PUA go up to a girl, talk to her for alittle bit and get the number in that same interaction. this is how I found out what real PUA is

and I'll say it again.. Woman think with emotions and men think with their logical brains, if you don't get it then you're in the wrong place.

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Why did you make the same thread in two different section? Read the forum rules.

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