I decided that I'm going to give this a rest for while, iv been going out , at least two nights a week for ages now, I'm not getting anywhere chasing girls and trying learn pickup , everyone in the nightclub is having more fun, i get angry alot because of this , especially if i see a girl and i dont appouch her and then someone else does, I dont think a club is my kind of environment anymore i just feel hate to pretty much everyone in there, which is the opposite to how i really am, i know i can be fun and funny, but it seems this type of enviroment brings something out of me not so nice.

I wrote this because i needed to get this out, I'm 22, Ive been laid once in my life, this whole pickup thing is depressing me cause I'm not getting the result i want, and every girl seems to me to be a complete bitch anyways.

its shame cause I took a bootcamp with rsd had a great time , i was an approuching machine, not after though , it was like i saw greatness in me soon to be covered up again by all the bullshit, what can i say ....i just needed to get this out.

maybe i should see someone , i dont know whats going on inside me.....eckhart tolle I love you man for what you teach, but i guess I'm just not getting the essence of it.


sorry to be a moaner guys

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Hey buddy,

When you're just starting out, it is easy to get disheartened. Obviously, I don't want to get all misty eye'd here, but it sounds like you might need this. Whenever that used to happen to me, i always reminded myself of this:

'Everybody is an attractive person. What pick up isn't is a series of lines and behaviors that get you laid. What pick up lines are, however, are a series of examples of how you can show the attractive part of you that is within.'

Girls aren't attracted to you because you say something, they're attracted because what you say and how you act provides an underlying message about who you are.

Clubbing sounds like it gets you a bit pissed off, so why not try a situation where you can have a chat with girls instead? Show a girl in a library or a cafe how charming you are. At the end of the conversation, ask this simple question;

'Hey, are you single?' 'Can I have your number?'

If she says yes, then great! If she says no, then just say with a smile 'ha, oh well. I'm sure I'll stop crying tomorrow.'

I hope that's helpful. I run a dating website with a lot of free dating stuff if you fancy having a look.

Seeya buddy,

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I agree with the majority of that advice. However, don't ASK a girl for her number, simply say something like :

"Hey you know, I'm enjoying getting to know you! We should hang out again soon!" Then you literally hand your phone over to the girl & say "I tell you what, just put your digits in there & I'll call you and we'll hang out! IF you're a good girl!" (With a cheeky smile if you like! Confident, NOT arrogant).

By doing this, YOU'RE making the decision. You're letting her know that you want her number, and because you're confident & proactive, you're gonna get it! When you ASK a girl for her number, there's more chance of her saying no, and in a way you're not being alpha enough.

Hope this helps!

Happy gaming fellas!

Hey stringfellow,

Yeah I get what you mean, being assumptive in the close s good. Asking for a number isn't un-alphay though.

I get new numbers most weeks and for the last 18 months this has been my close of choice

you make a good point about leading the interaction and there are lots of different ways to close, this one has never steered me wrong, it definatley doesn't show weakness. Give it a try if you wanna

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You need the Rakeal method. I'll tell you right off that if you aren't having fun then women will smell that a mile away and blow you off right away. But my method is not for the light of heart. I'm direct and get bitch shield alot. And I don't recommend it for people who have something else that works. If you get blown out, SMILE. Look at her in the eye and say. "This is the best thing that ever happened to me. (slight pause holding eye contact, big grin) I really like that girl (point to a girl you think is hot). I'm working up the courage to walk up and talk to her. I figured what's the worst that could happen? I'm just practicing on you because (neg of your choice lol). Honestly this is the worst that could happen and I'm fine. I FEEL GREAT!! Then turn around walk right up to the girl you pointed to and start from there. Or another variant. Ask her for pointers of what you could do better, not as good though because you're feeding off of her too much in that case. What you want to happen is for her to approach you later. She might apologize, ask you how it went. You're making her see things from your perspective and that you are human. It's an opportunity to show personality. Being rejected is your chance to show the woman that you are a man and can take it. Many women will reject ALL guys. Even ones they like. You know how many women have told me not to gat any idea's and I'm banging them later.

Honestly though, none of this advice will be useful to you and could be avoided to begin with if you held your inner self together better. We all feel that way sometimes. I'm feeling like that lately. This is only a moment though. You actually went to a real bootcamp with RSD, you should be miles ahead of me.

Maybe what you should do is meditate and bring yourself into that moment. What where the sounds, smells, feelings ect. Recreate it in your brain then anchor it somehow. A good anchor might be a waahhoooo!!! (get the club going ;P)

Or maybe learn Mystery method and follow it religiously, that's my opinion the training wheels of pick up. Rsd is for the advanced, guys who get girls but have dry spells. Then again just reading your post I can tell you your problem comes from within.