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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:13 pm 
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Agreed great body language and super unshakeable confidence!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:45 pm 
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With naturals, I'd say it's not that they "can't" keep girls . . . they just don't choose to keep them.. Usually, they quit on the relationships and not the other way around. (Not that there's anything good about this either. . . it's probably equally sad . . .)

It's too easy for the natural to walk away. On any given weekend, anywhere in the World, he can just go find another girl. He can game her and within 2 weeknds . . . presto, you've got yourself a replacement. And at these early stages of a relationship, you're less likely to experience any serious issues or conflict so there's this initial feeling that he made a great choice with the "trade-in". Add to this, naturals always have the next one lined up because they're just habitual flirters.

So one little bump in the relationship and it's too easy for the guy to go, "Fuck this . . . I can find another one this weekend who won't pull any of this crazy shit." . . . Well, the guy moves on, on, and on but soon finds out the big secret: ALL WOMEN ARE CRAZY. Which basically means that perhaps really . . . maybe he's the crazy one.
Hey! Girls are not that crazy. I love hotties. :) I'm not crazy or at least not that much... ;) Generally I agree with you. If I don't like her I can just walk away. The latest girl that I dated was what you would call a true SHB9 and of true model quality. I didn't like her that much as a person so she had to go. Next... I know that I can do that as I can get pretty much any girl to like me. This even if she is a very beautiful girl (SHB9 or SHB10). Therefore I don't understand what you guys mean when you say that it is so hard to get a 9 or a 10. I never use negs or disqualifiers either. At least I do not know that I use anything like that. I'm always direct and never hide anything in an indirect approach. The weirdest thing is that I just don't know what I do. I can't really describe it. Don't make me say what I do because I seriously do not know what it is. I'm just myself and girls just like me for who I am. Last weekend I talked to a teen and her granny and they both liked me...


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Therefore I don't understand what you guys mean when you say that it is so hard to get a 9 or a 10. I never use negs or disqualifiers either. At least I do not know that I use anything like that. I'm always direct and never hide anything in an indirect approach. The weirdest thing is that I just don't know what I do. I can't really describe it. Don't make me say what I do because I seriously do not know what it is. I'm just myself and girls just like me for who I am. Last weekend I talked to a teen and her granny and they both liked me...
true dat. the mantra of every natural i've ever met.

be direct. tell her you like her. make things happen. if she doesn't meet your standards, move on. and they can never explain it beyond "it's a numbers game, and be yourself."

of course, a guy who has no experience succeeding with this will be broadcasting insecurity when he tries it, so it won't work for him. a conundrum to be sure.

if you are happy with yourself first, pickup is easy. if you aren't, it's always gonna be wicked hard and you will need to use all kinds of tricks.

every natural i know is pretty happy with his life (even if sometimes he's a lil self-deluded about it. :D ).

most guys i know who "study" pickup are way dissatisfied with their lives.

fix yo life first.

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true dat. the mantra of every natural i've ever met.

be direct. tell her you like her. make things happen. if she doesn't meet your standards, move on. and they can never explain it beyond "it's a numbers game, and be yourself."

of course, a guy who has no experience succeeding with this will be broadcasting insecurity when he tries it, so it won't work for him. a conundrum to be sure.

if you are happy with yourself first, pickup is easy. if you aren't, it's always gonna be wicked hard and you will need to use all kinds of tricks.

every natural i know is pretty happy with his life (even if sometimes he's a lil self-deluded about it. :D ).

most guys i know who "study" pickup are way dissatisfied with their lives.

fix yo life first.
Hi Sean! :)

What do you mean with "the mantra of every natural"? I have heard the word "mantra" before but I don't know what the word means.

The thing is that before coming to the Seduction community I did not know anything about this world. I did not even know it existed. I just went up to the girl that I liked and started speaking with her. I don't think what I should say before or during the approach. When I meet her I just say what first comes into my mind. I improvise and see where the interaction gets us. I'm open for anything but I don't expect anything. This is what I do and it has worked great so far.


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You are comfortable with women, and comfortable expressing interest in them, so you have no reason to feel nervous.

Most guys who come to this without a lot of success with women first are uncomfortable with women, and terrified of expressing interest, so they get hella nervous till they do some work to change those things.

Hopefully this community will allow more men who have real experience WITHOUT learning it from a book to share with those who could use a little guidance.


It should be more like a big bro showing you the ropes with girls. Shit, I learned more from being around my uncle than I ever learned from PUA gurus. :)

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