Looks definitely matter to some extent. My game is so-so, however i'm blessed with very good genetics. If I didn't look like I do, I would say I wouldn't have gotten with 60% of the girls I've been with. I'm lucky.

However, really good game is definitely a substitute. One of my friends is average looking, not ugly, but not good looking by any means. Yet, he's slept with many, many women. He has good game, and he has the numbers and the sexy chicks to show for it.

Both play a role, the thing is if you have some fucking spectacular game you don't need the looks, but even with amazing looks you need a bit of game.
I speak from experience again, because before I started studying this shit girls would open me and talk to me, even call me and as me to party/ hangout! and I had no fucking clue what to do, I wasn't getting laid at all. Now its so damn easy.

I wish I had PUA knowledge in high school man. I had girls orbit me and I just didn't know what the fuck to do with it. Though I gotta say in college looks seem to matter less than they did in high school, but I'm compensating for that with my game.

Even though I feel like the biggest difference between good looking guys and non-good looking guys is that the glg's know they look good and portray confidence and thus appear more alpha, while n-glg's know they don't look good and portray beta qualities. I've seen guys going through a fucking transformation (mostly after getting a gf) just because they have so much more confidence (all in a purely heterosexual setting).

Whoever tells you looks don't matter AT ALL is just either providing emotional support or simply stupid.

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I feel that looks don't play as big a part as a lot may think. One night I was hanging with some friends of mine right after work, when he suddenly gets the urge to go to this Latin lounge/club. I had just gotten off work I remind you, so all I was wearing was a thermal long sleeve shirt, a pair of crappy jeans and dingy boots (the only reason I was allowed in was due to the fact that my boy knew head of security lol). All I was worried about was socializing with my friends and not picking up women because I looked like a BUM...but that didn't stop random chicks from grabbing me by the hand and TELLING me I had to dance with them, or from rubbing on my chest as they walked by me...it was crazy my boy said he thought he was standing next to Denzel lol. I think my point is that how u carry ur self is the most important aspect. Always look like ur having fun and always be confident. Also u can always find nice looking clothes if u shop on sale. I never shop full price and I'm always complimented on how good/well put together I look.

Your look matter 50/50%

Couple of my friends are ugly as hell! But they are able to get girls always, because they know how to play and they know how ugly they are themselves , but they don't care.

I Myself am good looking sportguy, and sometimes i don't even have to pick-up woman..she come first to me and then only what i have to do is take her home.

My point here is, that look doesn't matter always.
If you are good player, you can get women without good look.
And if you are good looking, use it your advantage and still get that HB!

Good looking or not, finally your personality and sensation are the bottom line to get a girl.

Looks only matter if you attribute importance to them. Which can't be a good thing if you are not looking your best that day.

If you're not good looking, then you gotta draw that confidence and awesomeness from elsewhere.

Whoa, back up. When someone asks "Do looks matter?" Matter to WHO? You, the guy? Or to women? I assume they mean women, because we all are trying to figure out how women think and how they perceive men.

Each man will perceive himself differently based on his looks. Hot guys know they are hot. And ugly guys know they are ugly. That's the reality. Hot guys pretty much have it made, because even with weak game they can coast on their looks. But ugly guys either have to find some strong inner game, or do what I see TONS of ugly AFCs doing, which is to simply settle for whatever they can get and pretend that looks don't matter at all.

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You also see tons of good looking guys with ugly girls because they have no inner game.

This is always an interesting subject. First of all, its difficult to say whether or not looks matter. It sounds cryptic, but to give an anecdotal example, I have this one friend - he's short, big nose, not stylish at all, nor does he groom well...BUT HE GETS THE HOTTEST GIRLS. I've been observing him quietly for years and he just has the natural ability to have anyone and everyone like him. Then again, I have a friend who doesn't get girls, but he's a very good looking fella and even though girls throw themselves at him he's very clueless and socially awkward.

Simply put, looks help and makes the approach way easier, but it isn't the end all be all. Men concentrate way more on physical attractiveness when it comes to a mate, while women just look for a guy that can protect and take care of them - in other words an alpha male. Although women prefer a handsome, well built guy, it is never the deciding factor for them.

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The only benefits I can think of to being a good looking guy is that girls may approach you.

But that's hardly a good thing if you have no game.

It could even mess the guys head up, since girls approach him, but he feels that he is not enough because it never goes past the approach.

I'm glad that if the interaction goes wrong, I have more to reflect upon that simply "maybe I'm still not good looking enough".

Tonight I was out with a mate, probably the best looking guy I have ever known, I was opening girls, they would ask to be introduced to him after a while, but immediately lost interest in him because he wasn't as fun, dominant, and showing sexual intent like I was.

of course does it matter!!! I can't imagine how an ugly looking guy, despite his great character, humour or what so ever could lay many hot chicks. I've never seen such a thing happen, honestly. He could pay for them but thats not the spirit right?

Think vice versa, I don't think the ladies think much different than we men do. And THEIR LOOKS definately DO MATTER!

It may vary from each women and what their intentions are. Simply sex? you may be dumb as fuck. Relationship? you may not be brad pitt, but jesus, you are funny!
I also think that this discussion is completly unnecessary. I always try to look good and feel comfortable. If i didn't, I might lack some confidence in approaching the ladies.
The looks therefore don't just affect the women directly but also give you a boost of confidence and improve your game.

Ps: English is not my first language

In my opinion looks matter alot, but so does personality too in a big way.

Looks Can get girls to come to you, but combo that with a great personality they will all over you. I've seen good looking guys get approached all the time by hot women and still fail miserably with them because of them being shy or having no personality.

I have always been pretty good looking and the hottest girl in my school had a crush on me for the longest time, but I was too stupid to realize until it was too late and she already had a older bf. But now, I've been trying to change that and I'm alot more outgoing than I used to be and hear all the time about girls liking me, even though only 25% i'm attracted to back, but hey better 25% then 0%. But yeah when you show your great personality and especially if your a funny guy, Looks don't really matter if you know all the right things to say.

I've always been a shy guy around girls, but lately I've changed that and have had a lot more success. I realize when I show my funny and humorous side around girls too and not just my friends, they like me and usually are alot more attracted to me then they aleady were or weren't. Anybody can be attractive if they really try to be. If you have good lucks, Great! If not it doesn't matter, Girls will still like you just let them know you and try to be more outgoing.

Looks do matter, there are various studies which show that celebs and rich and affluent people have mostly good looks than avg looks, and looks is a symbol of you being high status more than not, so this acts as a natural attractant for girls just like various other traits portrayed with PUA skills, ask any glg and he will tell you getting stares from unknown girls at various public places which is natural attraction kicking in, but ofcourse many men may have looks and not eventually be that well of in other skills courtsey weak transitioning from their ancestors, or 1 parent offsetting other parents' traits. Good looks so should be substantiated with knowing the different stages of PUA is just enough as you can't lose your looks(tangible) but certainly can lose confidence, charm and other intangibles.

Ofcourse someone posted about point system where scoring high in other intangibles can outscore looks, but still looks is a reflection of those very intangibles where work was done by someone in your ancestral hierarchy.

Looks matter. At the same time they don't. If your a guy and your a nine or a ten you don't need game honestly. I remember the House M.D episode where House, Wilson, Foreman and Chase were speed dating. They all said that if Chase wasn't a doctor and a PUA that he would still get girls. He disagreed. So they made a bet and he couldn't tell anyone that he was a doctor and he had to act like a AFC. End result at the end of the night where they hand out card of people who would welcome a call from you, every girl still wanted to be with them.

But at the same time, as girls mature they want someone who can make them laugh. Someone who is interesting. Then it isn't all about looks. I would say I am a seven. I am a decent looking guy, but not model looking by any stretch of the imagination and I am kinda big (I am a black Jason Segel not fat but not skinny). But my game is to get a girl interested in me with my personality. I could beat out a guy who is a nine if he had no personality nine times out of ten.

It all really depends on what the girl wants. I know if a nine came up to me and she wanted a relationship. But she was ass dumb and a bitch. And a seven came up to me and she was wonderful, I'd choose the seven every time.

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Here's the way I see it. At clubs, it's all about looks. Because that's one of the few things girls can judge you by, maybe also confidence and social proof as well. But you can't really let your personality shine through in a club with loud Lady Gaga music blasting in the background. And hotter girls want hotter looking guys, simply because they know they can get them.

What do you think goes through a woman's head when you first open a set? It's either "This guy looks creepy/ugly" or "This guy is kinda hot". It's certainly not "I hope this guy is funny" or "I hope he isn't needy". That's why so many guys get blown out within the first 60 seconds of opening a set. If you're hot, the girl will allow you to fuck up a little until your personality shines through. But if you are average, fat, or ugly, you better be crackin' jokes and getting them to smile almost immediately, because I guarantee they are thinking "This guy is not very attractive, I can do better."

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