Hi, i've been reading on this forum for quite a while, and trying to improve my game. Much of my game come naturally because i have done alot of the things mentioned in this forum without thinking about it. But you can always better your game.

I have no problem dealing with chicks on the club and ususally get 4-5 numbers and make out with 1-2 broads.

My problem is in the day game and i have sometimes problems with reading the girls. Im gonna give you guys a detailed version, so i can get good feedbacks

So in my class at the university there is a HB9 which is my target, and i met her and her friend at a computer room in school. HB9 asked me for help in her essay she is doing. And i dont now her so well, just seen her in class. So i start helping her and negging her and trying to get to know her, she tells me she wants a tatoo and bla bla. But her friend is sitting next to her which is a HB8. So im trying to involve her to because it felt awkward she were just sitting there. So i start of by negging her "your the one that always talks alot in class" so she starting to neg me back. And we go one back and forth for a while, and i was switching from small talk to negging HB8, while i was being nicer to HB9 and negging her sometimes when i got the chance.

Was this good? or should i mainly neg the target?

One thing that came to my mind was that when i negged HB8, she said me and HB9 could get along very well (i guess she meant we have the same type of humour). And we looked at eachother and just smiled.


Another thing that happened was when we were leaving i did not hold the door for HB9 and she just asked me afterwords in a playful way, why im not a gentleman and gentleman should hold doors for girls. I just laughed it off by saying you are funny. What did she mean? how should a handle that situation.

I also want to mention that sometimes in class HB9 looks at me and we smile to eachother, and she always smiles and says hello in class. Is that a good sign?

But my main problem is i dont know how to get alone time with HB9 because we are just seeing eachother in class, how should i proceed with that? Is she just being nice to me? or is she interested. I dont wanna be to forward because it can get awkard in class if she disses me.


During this time i was with HB8 and HB9, HB9 shows me a pic in her mobile of a very nice car, and asked what i think about it. I felt she was braging and i only said i dont like it, then she got quiet and asked why, so i said i just dont. Was i to hard with that? Should i be easier on her?


Sorry for the long post! I hope you guys can give me some pointers

Alrite for starters it seems you handled your self pretty well for an afc. In the community we have a goup theory started by mystery. It applies to any group whether its a male female group or just a femal group. Size doesnt matter. You ignore your target for the first little bit, simply focusing on getting the friends or obstacles to like you. So in this situation you did a decent job involving the obstacle but you shouldve talked her from the begining. You shouldve focused on the obstacle, throwing the occasional neg your targets way. Getting the obstacle in on it as well only makes it even better. Your correct though in thinking you mainly should have negged the target though and I applaud you on noticing and acknowledging your mistake. You did a great job not holding the door open to her. The Pickup artist is the exception to the rule. He doesnt hold opnen doors and he doesnt buy girls he meets drinks. You must be the exception. Her looking at you and smiling is an IOI. Its an indicater to approach her. As for getting alone time with her simply ask if shed like to study together some time. If she trys to get you to study with some of her friends simply lie and tell her yo cant that day. Select a different day and ask her if she'll meet you, but do it at a place of your choice where you can be alone with her. As for the car... That was a neg you took a little to far. Saying you dont like its fine but you should have added something like " Nah im more of a convertible guy" you have to give it context. simply saying you dont like it will just hurt her feelings. And as for the awkwardness in class you'll just have to get over it. Chasing after women carries the fact that sometimes we get burned down. Sometimes in front of friends, sometimes in front of classmates. But ask your self this man. Would you rather be the guy who went for it? Or the guy that always wished he had had the guts to?

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