hi,

i know we cannot convey too much interests to the female during an early interaction, so we play a bit of push pull.

here come's the problem. some guys simply don't care about their value. they are extremely clingy to women until they were told to fxxk off. what is the best way of getting rid of them without looking needy in front of the HB?

many thanks

Personal experience from me:

I was with a friend and he did not have a frikkin clue and I was gaming her from my way and he from his all guns blazing way as you have said.

This was one of the things I did.

Find a point where you can challenge his view and block him completely out when you direct it to her and stop him from interfering. She will pick up here is desperate and panicing because you have the attention. Convey your point and relate back to her. this brings in qualification form her. Immediately as you have finished go 'i'm, going to get another drink come on i'll get you (whatever she is drinking) and we can continue this conversation.

Or just be the opposite of that guy but still yourself keep some mystery because the clingy clockblocker has not
kept any mystery and probably lied where as you has or more intriguing because she does not know that much of you also you need to couple this with your body language, approach and other things.

I hope this helps I'm not the best at explaining things online I'm more of a face to face person

Peace

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