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bahahah you still sound mad mate. Is everything ok? As someone who has studied human behaviour you would know that fingers pointed to the head would NOT indicate anger. lol. I find it hilarious that you think that's me in my AV lol and even bring it into discussion haha.

How do you know that I haven't studied human behaviour? Don't assume buddy, it will just make you look like an ass ;)

I beleive that yes, if someone smiles back or says 'hey' back that that is an IOI. Wether they are being friendly or not it IS an indicator of interest. Not every IOI needs to be one where it involves f-closing, k-closing #-closing. No need to get butt hurt kiddo. Sounds like you need to walk before you can run ;)
LOL Pretty Lame that I agree. I was just bull shitting on the avatar, I don't really care. Sorry about it seeming like a personal attack. Anger is not the only form of suicide, sadness, pain, and fear are also forms of motivation for suicide. I didn't even mention anger. Even curiosity has caused suicide attempts.

Why would you possibly consider a friendly hi and smile an IOI? I hate the term IOI anyways, there are signs of attraction and friendly behavior. Friendly behavior happens between two strangers as a general part of acceptable public human behavior. It'd be horrible for you spread such a rumor to these kids, learn more before you post more.

Your information is not of someone who has studied human behavior or you would have pointed out both context (rude not to say hey) and the fact that behavior is mirrored. When you smile they smile. Your information shows a very limited if any study of human behavior. My assumption is unfortunately easily formed(and true) off of your poor information.

Again someone saying hi back is not showing an indicator of interest, if she says hi and gives a RUDE smile is it showing interest? NO. It's a part of general public acceptable behavior to act that way. I would look for more of the look down(submissive behavior) and small preen(adjustments in appearance/bringing attention to appearance) to show interest than a smile and a hi. Body language is all about the full picture not 1-2 itty bitty signal like the word hi and smile. It could be a fake smile, and the hi tone could be horrible.

Everything is all about an overall read of the behavior not just one or two parts to it.
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If I smile at a girl as I walk into a bar and she smiles back thats an IOI. If I walk past a girl in a bar and say 'hey' and she returns 'hey' back thats an IOI. I find it funny for someone who supposedly studies human behaviour to dismiss these small signs.

I can't put it any simpler. Seeing a girl smile back as anything BUT an IOI may need an attitude change from pessimistic to optimistic anyway ;)

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It was the fact that you made it seem every time, that was my issue with it, broad spectrum statements when it comes to body language are wrong. There will always be exceptions, anyone who studied behavior would know better than to make such a broad statement no?

Yes it's good to be optimistic but it's bad to make absolute statements when they really are in general. You limited the landscape of your statement, once you gave more detail things changes. It's wrong for you to see me as incorrect when courtship is seen everywhere from the grocery store to class to work to anywhere, not just the bar. If your courtship experiences are limited to the bar I can certainly see your standpoint however behavior should always be looked at in context, leaving it out of context creates mistakes like this.

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I didn't make it seem everytime. Would anyone so seriously take a smile from a 60+ year old in a wheel chair as a direct IOI? It's the context in which you take it. This being a PUA forum I thought it was pretty obvious that if you smile at a chick (she's probably ones target) and she's smiles back that's a good thing. We're not talking a little girl with an ice cream getting a smile from an elderly lady cos she's cute. geeeez azzzz. The context is PUA!!!

To ANYONE reading this. If you smile at a chick your interested in and she's smiles back, HIT HER UP! If you think she's not interested in you from the smile she gives back and that stops you from approaching - you will always be beta.

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I didn't make it seem everytime. Would anyone so seriously take a smile from a 60+ year old in a wheel chair as a direct IOI? It's the context in which you take it. This being a PUA forum I thought it was pretty obvious that if you smile at a chick (she's probably ones target) and she's smiles back that's a good thing. We're not talking a little girl with an ice cream getting a smile from an elderly lady cos she's cute. geeeez azzzz. The context is PUA!!!

To ANYONE reading this. If you smile at a chick your interested in and she's smiles back, HIT HER UP! If you think she's not interested in you from the smile she gives back and that stops you from approaching - you will always be beta.
I really think staying positive and having that mentallity is good when your sarging but saying its an IOI is wrong. There would be way more body language that needs to be included with a smile to say that its any kind of IOI. Especially in day game.

Walk up to a random girl and smile at her, then ask her if she smiled back because she is attracted and interested in you or if she was just being polite.
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I've been hit on by the 60 year old woman in a wheelchair it is pretty similar to a smile and eye contact but then there is a more added to it, attraction with younger women is no different. They still preen, show submission, and make eye contact.

PUA is not a context, are you serious? Do you understand the definition? How I pick up a woman at a grocery store is different than a restaurant, Las Vegas Strip, or the club all are different context, her body language changes to this particular situation. You also need to take into consideration all of the body language guidelines including consistency, congruency, idiosyncratic behaviors, timing, base lining, your information is far too limited ignorant and uneducated for me to allow you to leave these on the forum and not correct your asinine remarks.

It's good to be positive and tell them hell go approach it's not like a smile is a bad thing but don't lie to them and say smiling and saying hey is a good IOI when in reality it could mean shit but proper public human behavior.

I'm not saying your are wrong every time but if you just learn to read attraction by way of body language you would understand when it is true and when it isn't.

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All you have to say is "Hey", if she says "hey" back thats a good IOI and you can ask how she is
LOL that is not in PUA context, that seems to be referred to everyday interaction. Just saying you made a broad statement admit it and move on.

I just want you to realize IOIs are different just between day and night game, which is why I prefer to just learn to read body language, I don't want to say to some kid oh she liked you , she said hi and smiled. That's a bullshit statement, Some women are always smiling.

Oh yeah and you may be saying shit to me but at least I had the respect of the poster to actually read the post, while you just went on rambling your opinion before you even gave him the courtesy of a minute and half more to read his post. You should learn to communicate better it will help with all these communication issues.

We don't know what you are thinking when you say it or where you are coming from, so best to be more detailed especially if you are too rude to actually read the post.

I'm done chatting with you about this, good luck in all your pua endeavors.

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Ok lads, if you smile at a chick and she smiles back. DO NOT APPROACH. I REPEAT, DO NOT APPROACH!!!

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