i would just like some examples of how to be more of the valuable guy towards woman and examples of being "needy" and "seeking approval" and how to prevent doing that i just cant seem to understand what it means to be those things. and id love more details in the valuable part if you could do so id highly appreciate it.

Are you needy? If you are, you'll come across needy. If you're not needy, and you are not attached to the outcome, you won't come across needy.

examples as to if i were to be acting needy..

examples you say...

Example #1

Texting/calling the girl multiple times when she doesn't reply

Example #2

HB: Are you romantic?
You: Yes, I really am, altough it is never appreciated.

Example #3

HB: Buy me a drink!
You...well you buy her one.

Example #4

HB: I think I might look a bit awkward in this dress
You: No it fits you just perfectly...really.

Get it? Or should I list more?

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Topic on Value

To develop value, this can be achieved by self amusing yourself. This theory is by RSDN and I learned it from Tyler Durden. Basically, if you can generate your own happiness/fun from within by your self you will develop value. If girls see you having fun, they will want to join you because you are having fun.

An example of not providing value would be the guys, at the club, who stand against the wall and hold their drink about chest height. This is an example of people seeking happiness/or fun from their environment/surrounding. Or if you go to a shitty club, bar, party, venue and all you do is complain that the venue sucks ... then you are seeking value. But, if you are able to generate your own fun and make the shitty venue fun for your self then you are providing value.

How to be self amusing? Be silly, retarded, if there is no one dancing on the dance floor, go dance by yourself. Go laugh with your friends, play silly games. When you do this you can approach girls and they will love to invite you to the set because you are fun (aka: Providing value).

Hoped that help and not confuses things. Tahaha.

Sincerely

Donston

Topics about not being needy, and not seeking approval.

It all about your mind frame. To over come communicating neediness, then you must develop an "abundance mind frame". Where you believe that if this girl rejects me, it will be no problem because there is another set over there. Have you ever heard of the saying "The good ones are all taken". Where girls are more attracted to guys who has girl friends because they don't sub communicate neediness to that girl because if that girl rejects him he has a girl friend to fuck at home.

Seeking approval can be countered by not giving a fuck about what the girl says or it's called irrelevancy. Old school PUA terms this as "Plowing", where you keep on moving forward and ignore bad response from a girl... Just keep plowing, plowing, plowing, until something sticks. But, in a natural style of game, you do not let a girl dictate how you feel. Where you do not change your personality just so you can impress the girl. When you develop this mind frame of not giving a fuck, then you can talk about anything you want. You will never run out of things to say because you don't care if she is impress or not. The ironic thing about this is that she will be attracted to you because you are authentic ^_^.

I learned this theory from Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics and apply it countless times. I talk about nerdy things, or self development theories to girls or talk about how the wall is color red, or how my favorite season is autumn, random, random stuff I want to talk about. But, the attraction is produced all from what you sub communicate of "not giving a fuck and be your self".

Sincerely,

Donston

To sum it all up... you want to be valueable towrads a woman... you must first value yourself, you can try all kinds of tricks and things to try and come across as non needy and of value but unless you beileve it nothing you do will work... the best thing that will help is a change in your subconsious which all your subconsious really is, is your body language, to understand it better your body follows your mind and your mind follows your body, whatever you feel your body will project weather it be verbal or physical, and whatever your body projects you will feel.. if you feel sad youl frown, but the same is true for the opposite, if your happy then you start to frown youl start to feel sad.. so now understanding how that works, you can see that by changing your bodylanguage you change how you feel and youl be a solid fortress of confidence and value to everyone around you, examples of these changes are

#1. Standing up straight with your head up - improves how confident you feel and how you look. Now im not saying do a gorrila walk and head held up like a mugshot... the way you should do this is by imagining a string is pulling your head straight up as far as it can without lifting your feet off the ground.. your chest will rise natuarally and your head will be straigt instead of looking onveralpha or unconfident.
#2. Smiling- right up there with standing up straight it demonstrates your fun and playful and youl feel much happier to.
#3. Not Fidgeting- demonstrates your calm and collected and internally youl feel more caml and relaxed

just with those changes youl start to notice you feel more valuable and youl be aware of how people notice it to.

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